Does anyone know V Treu vom Schäferstolz story? - Page 2

love to see them when you can post em

Schafer my bitch is not breed on Mambo.  She is a cross with West German and Czech.  She is black and tan and has no signs of white.  Neither do any of her littermates, which was a repeated breeding to Eick von der Berger Hochburg.  Below are videos of Eick.  He was extremely serious in his protection and was breed numerous times both here in the states and overseas.

www.youtube.com/pedigree

www.youtube.com/protection

i found this statement about Treu when doing my research.

"Another great reproducer of the DDR was TREU v. SCHAFERSTOLZ , son of Arko Grafental and Citta v. Schaferstolz. It is a dog that very has been used in old Czechoslovakia, specially by afijo police officer f Pohranicni Strazel , whose people in charge are the present criadores with the afijos r Jirkova DvoraC and LUIcova Dvorar. It reproduces a type of dog with very many instinct and loaded of aggression, arriving to be in many hardly controlable cases. In Spain we had descendants of TREU like ARGON BENHOF cs, of Pedro Luis Gutierrez ; the deceased LARS DUDAKOVA cs, admired and excellent unit of Ignacio Mountain range ; ZEUS z. JIRKOVA DVORA cs, unit of Pedro Pujol that it has to TREU in consanguinity 2-4 and SILKO v. EICHENDORFSCHULE , also of Pedro Luis Gutierrez , great-grandchild of TREU through his grandfathers KARO z. ULCOVA DVORA cs. Also of the DDR is LORD v. GLEISDREIECK , grandson of INGO RUDINGEN , a dog that has had excellent children in competition and excellent reproducers."

TREU in consanguinity 2-4 would give the best or most influence in the line breeding. But one has to remember that there are 60 other dogs in the same 5 generations. This was not to debate if Treu was great or not but to say Hips should be something to consider. The old saying may apply here "Do not believe every thing you read on the internet"

Schaferhunden
Treu vom Schäferstolz had C hips Prager Hans

This is how things get muddled. Just say one little part of the statement out of context
 and make the sense of the statement completely  different. Often on purpose! Here is what I have really said:
(Treu) Had c hips in 5 years of age but produced 90 descendants and 89 had 0/0

To that would like to add that Troy had 0/2. Which would indicate that he was genetically sound, but one hip sustained injury,  which could be backed up by his record. 89 good hips 0/0 out of 90.
Genetically it is unlikely that genetic code fro one hip is different that the one for the other. That is not my idea but scientific theorie which I have studied.

Schaferhunden
You may want to check cause Mambo z Pohrnaicni
straze seems to have a good amount of pups with white on the feet and chest. I seen one with a white tipped tail.

I do not know if that is the truth or not, I have not seen such problem, or herad about it , that is until now. But who really cares?!  Never mind that he is an outstanding dog in just about all of the other aspects. But God forbid!!!! He produced one pup with the white on tip of his tail. Give me a physical brake!!!! Also I have talked to Jiri about this and after he stopped laughing  he said that he have not ever seen it but had never even heard about it also . Let me say that Mambo had in Czech 68 breedings and in Slovakia over 30. 
 Obviously nobody observed this problem there or was concerned about it.
 Mambo is one of the best dogs ever!  And keep in mind, that by saying this, I am making advertising here for my competition.

Sometimes I am amazed what people come up with.   Especially jealous German breeders.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com

Lets see 98 breedings Hmmmmm, i am sure Mambo was so great all these litters were great ( there is more then a few slugs from him). It is a fact his has more then a few pups with with feet and chest. But i would have to guess if you would admit to the problems with these dogs sales maybe affected. Oh let's not forget Jiri.

You may want to check cause Mambo z Pohrnaicni
straze seems to have a good amount of pups with white on the feet and chest. I seen one with a white tipped tail.


www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/progeny_pictures/466041.html

Just out of curiosity I looked up Mambo and looked at the pics of his progeny. I didn't see one with white on it. If anything they were all pretty dark. Also wouldn't  any white have some part of the genetics of the female?
(The name is spelled Mambo z Pohranicni straze not Pohrnaicni.)

Here is one and if you look you will find more. I have seen them on this PDB more of the ad had run out http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/600345.html Back foot and chest on this one.Never take the word of a salesman