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by tarekallam on 25 February 2010 - 17:02
SHHHHHHHH, Everybody listen the master speaks above.
Thanks MOONS.
Thanks MOONS.
by rocknrolla on 25 February 2010 - 18:02
You will never see a sick, weak or submissive dog kick up the ground after they clean out. Aggressive and Dominant males who feel good will do it every time. As a rule, males will do this more than females but certain Masculine type bitches will do it as well. Dogs of every breed from Chihuahuas to Danes will do this. It's like Tarzan beating his chest. It is a form of a challenge and to let it be known, they feel fit and ready, even if they are not.
by tarekallam on 25 February 2010 - 18:02
Rocknrolla- How right you are, my neighbor has a couple of Rottwiler males & they always kick up the ground after they clean out , then afterward they walk / gait in a challenging manner, very proud of themselves.
by beetree on 25 February 2010 - 18:02
Tarek,
When my dog does this, it seems he is reacting to some animal that used to be there and will look intently in one direction, presumably looking for the interloper. I can imagine him thinking, "That's not MY aftershave! Smell this why don't you!"
Oops, I'm not an expert, hope you don't mind.
When my dog does this, it seems he is reacting to some animal that used to be there and will look intently in one direction, presumably looking for the interloper. I can imagine him thinking, "That's not MY aftershave! Smell this why don't you!"
Oops, I'm not an expert, hope you don't mind.
by tarekallam on 25 February 2010 - 19:02
BeeTree, This makes sense, mine act the same way.
Oops, may be you are not an expert as you very modestly claim, but you are my best friend whom I like listening to her opinions at any time.
Oops, may be you are not an expert as you very modestly claim, but you are my best friend whom I like listening to her opinions at any time.
by LAVK-9 on 25 February 2010 - 19:02
Rocknrolla....that is true about some females.The 1 I had didn't do the scratching till after I got her sister in.Then they would both scratch after the went.(they were very dominate bitches!!) The 2 GSDs I have now (males intact) are quite dominate and sometimes scratch at an area that they are sniffing that one of the neighbors dogs must have gone before them.Then they will mark that area and scratch after as well. I have noticed that sometimes they only scratch in certain areas. As though the other areas are fair game to just go to relieve themselves(no certain territory) and the other area is actually territory that they are marking cause they don't want the neighbors dogs on our side. I don't blame them cause neither do I !!! (but I am not going to go marking out there lol) They also try to hike up their legs to pee higher in spots as well.Other places they don't care as much. The higher the better.Makes the other dogs perceive that since the sent is up higher it must be a bigger dog/animal then them. Sometime they end up falling over.lol
Wolves have a sent gland on their tail...it is mid way down it is a darker star shape mark.Some sable GSDs have it as well.(I am sure other colors do but it isn't as easy to see it.) It is no longer a scent gland though.(as far as I know) These are the best tail pics i have to show the dark sent mark. On the GSd is is where the dark breaks and there is lighter fur on the side.On the wolf it is the black spot. Easier to see when the fur lays nice.They are in their winter coats.
~L~
Wolves have a sent gland on their tail...it is mid way down it is a darker star shape mark.Some sable GSDs have it as well.(I am sure other colors do but it isn't as easy to see it.) It is no longer a scent gland though.(as far as I know) These are the best tail pics i have to show the dark sent mark. On the GSd is is where the dark breaks and there is lighter fur on the side.On the wolf it is the black spot. Easier to see when the fur lays nice.They are in their winter coats.
~L~
by Two Moons on 25 February 2010 - 19:02
tarekallam,
I watch my dogs marking their territory daily, I also see them cover markings left by other dogs and Coyotes.
Every movement is deliberate and they follow a route in the same direction each time.
There is a difference between where they leave urine and where they drop scat.
When I see the scrape I also see that they do not turn or double back, but head off to the next spot deliberately.
Now maybe a dog with a more complex territory such as an urban setting or city does it different.
But here they have no distractions, they own the forest around them and have a definite boundary that is easy to see.
They cover roughly ten acres.
The more dominate the dog, the further out their markings are from the other dogs I own.
Young dogs who are still inexperienced seem to stay very close to the house, like right in my driveway and always right where I walk.
Ya keep your eyes on the ground when you have a young one around or it ends up inside or in my car....lol
I do some marking myself, nope no scat..lol, just the garden and the entrance to my driveway...
And a few choice spots in the woods, especially someone else's Deer stand who gets too close to my territory.
Don't ask me why, I'm just strange that way.
Moons.
I watch my dogs marking their territory daily, I also see them cover markings left by other dogs and Coyotes.
Every movement is deliberate and they follow a route in the same direction each time.
There is a difference between where they leave urine and where they drop scat.
When I see the scrape I also see that they do not turn or double back, but head off to the next spot deliberately.
Now maybe a dog with a more complex territory such as an urban setting or city does it different.
But here they have no distractions, they own the forest around them and have a definite boundary that is easy to see.
They cover roughly ten acres.
The more dominate the dog, the further out their markings are from the other dogs I own.
Young dogs who are still inexperienced seem to stay very close to the house, like right in my driveway and always right where I walk.
Ya keep your eyes on the ground when you have a young one around or it ends up inside or in my car....lol
I do some marking myself, nope no scat..lol, just the garden and the entrance to my driveway...
And a few choice spots in the woods, especially someone else's Deer stand who gets too close to my territory.
Don't ask me why, I'm just strange that way.
Moons.
by tarekallam on 25 February 2010 - 19:02
Lavk-9 , you are right, I have observed my Jack Russel dog "Milo" on several occasions stretching his leg as high as possible to urinate above the urine marking of my GSDs but in vain. This always looks funny.
Moons- You are not strange that way, you are dominant.
Thanks both for passing your experience.
Moons- You are not strange that way, you are dominant.
Thanks both for passing your experience.
by Mindhunt on 25 February 2010 - 19:02
Lots of good info. Some things I never knew, others I did. 
My male has gotten older and does fall over occassionally trying to pee as high as possible. He will do his "scratchies" more firmly and with emphasis when he sees another animal. My female does as well, they get into a "who can make the biggest scratchies contest" if I let them. Interestingly enough, my mom's male Shih Tzu (neutered and 3yrs old) will do scratchies like mad after potty but is terrified of ANY dog (we think he had a bad experience at a groomers, massive behavior changes after coming back from her and she had her dogs all out, we came unannounced to pick up Odie). Instinct is an interesting thing.
My male has gotten older and does fall over occassionally trying to pee as high as possible. He will do his "scratchies" more firmly and with emphasis when he sees another animal. My female does as well, they get into a "who can make the biggest scratchies contest" if I let them. Interestingly enough, my mom's male Shih Tzu (neutered and 3yrs old) will do scratchies like mad after potty but is terrified of ANY dog (we think he had a bad experience at a groomers, massive behavior changes after coming back from her and she had her dogs all out, we came unannounced to pick up Odie). Instinct is an interesting thing.
by tarekallam on 25 February 2010 - 19:02
Mindhunt- When they stretch their legs as high as possible they remind me when Olympic Games Gymnastic players do the "Grand Car". I think the scratching is an instinct reaction regardless whether the dog is neutered or not.
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