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by Bob-O on 20 February 2010 - 03:02

I agree that the positioning is very bad, and the dog's body was seriously "torqued" during the examination. I think (and hope) that is why we are seeing a misaligned spine. The dog's legs were not pulled straight back and the knees were not rotated. I know that it can be very difficult to position a dog for the best radiograph expecially if they are "spiny" and are hard to keep on center. Melissa, you did not say whether the dog was sedated, but this is something to consider. I do not like using anesthaesia and try to use just enough to calm the animal - not render him unconcious.

But the veterinarian has a staff, and is trained to make the evaluation in the correct manner. Here is a link to a page of the O.F.A. website: http://offa.org/hipproc.html It is suggested reading.

Please know that the O.F.A. will tell you if they see other problems, such as a damaged/malformed spine, etc.. They do this for no extra charge.

Me? I think the hips are a "fair" grade and possibly a "good" with correct positioning.

Best of Luck,
Bob-O

by crhuerta on 20 February 2010 - 03:02

You must get these xrays re-done......the spine is not aligned properly at all......it's like a "double exposure & misalignment". I don't like the left positioning on the hip........BAD xrays all around.
I think those xrays make the dog look like it may have problems...that may not even exist...?!

Do not take the chance with something so important, as your dog's (certification)....
JMO
Robin

by Weezy on 20 February 2010 - 03:02

Melba,
It looks like the dog was rolled more to his left side more than he should have been. an Anesthetised dog should be alot easier to position for that straight on X-ray. And it really does appear something is wrong on that spine, I hope it isn't, but it really should be Checked just in case.
I have put on a couple of x-rays that might help you, give you something to compare to. These have more correct positioning. Elbow x-rays are good, its me that fuzzed the picture when I took it on second elbow.
Good luck,
Weezy.

by ziegenfarm on 20 February 2010 - 14:02

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/548618.html
would this be the dog?
sorry folks, i truly wish i could agree with you about the poor positioning being the cause of what we see here. i can't. this dog has suffered trauma. if the positioning were causing the misalignment, it would have occurred at least one, if not two vertabrae higher or more. if positioning were causing this, we would still see cartilage and space at the top of the tilted one. there is none. and there still remains the break in the pelvis. when you blow this xray up, you can see where it has healed over half way. if the pedigree and pic i linked here is the correct one, this is not a spiney dog, as bob suggested.
melissa, i am very concerned for your dog. please get him checked out. these xrays are piss poor and if your vet did not see what we are seeing, then he is piss poor as well. get a new vet. i hope to god you can prove me wrong and i'll be waiting to hear.
pjp

by crhuerta on 20 February 2010 - 14:02

I truly hope it's just the xrays also!.......I'm an optimist......I will hope for the best.
But absolutely, re-xray the dog! IF there is a true problem....you really need to know.
Robin

by melba on 20 February 2010 - 22:02

Thank you everyone for your input. I will let you know what transpires with Nero.

My vet is the best in the county and came highly recommended by experienced K9 trainers.

Melissa

by Psycht on 21 February 2010 - 02:02

Good luck, I hope it turns out all right. Personally I would have waited to breed him until after you got a rating on him or is he already rated with the SV? If so, did those xrays show the spine issue that people are discussing here?

by Jenni78 on 21 February 2010 - 13:02

I missed where it said he'd been bred already.

I'm not sure I see so much an inherited problem (if there's a problem) as a trauma-induced problem.

by Psycht on 21 February 2010 - 21:02

Jenni - it was not in the thread however their website show two bitches due to whelp in March by this male.

by melba on 21 February 2010 - 23:02

Yes, I have bred him to 2 bitches, only one took. I don't come on here advertising puppies and if you look at my comments and posts and such you will see that I keep most of my puppies to raise for LEO. If you don't like that, tough beans. I have had 100% success rate with the puppies I've kept to raise for LEO with passing hips of at least fair. I did not ask for opinions on my breeding practices, just hips as I was a little concerned about positioning. There has been no trauma to this dog for as long as he has been with me, so if there is a problem I am miffed as to how it may have happened and curious as to why he has shown absolutely no pain or discomfort.

I will have him rexrayed and post results when they become available.

Thank You,
Melissa

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