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by Sunsilver on 18 January 2010 - 19:01
He is VERY specific in identifying photos, and when he says German Shepherd, I believe he IS referring to our breed.
I can't find this particular picture in the book, so either it is not from his book, or was in one of the earlier editions. The one I've linked to above is the sixth edition.

by Silbersee on 18 January 2010 - 20:01
I do not need or want to look up that particular photo in the book. It does not matter what is meant but looking at these dogs - if this is actually a picture from the old edition - different kinds of sheepherding dogs were used to create our breed (shaggy, wirehaired, stockcoated etc.) from Thueringen and Wuerttemberg mainly.
I am German and I do know my own language. We make a fine but very distinct difference in where we place our words.
Stockhaarige Deutsche Schaeferhunde - Stockhaired German Shepherd Dogs
Deutsche stockhaarige Schaeferhunde - German stockhaired shepherd dogs (or sheepherding dogs).
Our breed is called Deutscher Schaeferhund and not just Schaeferhund. The word "Schaeferhund" describest a generalization of sheepherding dogs in our language. So for me, the second term "Deutsche stockhaarige Schaeferhunde" was a generalization for stockhaired sheepherding dogs, especially due to their appearance.
I just wanted to be helpful with a translation. Sorry for butting into your thread, it won't happen again. Should know better.
Have a good day!
by Goose on 18 January 2010 - 21:01

by Sunsilver on 18 January 2010 - 22:01
I did study German for a couple of years, but my skills are a bit rusty. I am, however WELL aware there is a difference between a 'Schaeferhund' and a 'Deutsche Schaferhund'.

Max clearly identifies the Wurtemburger and other types of shepherds by name and/or the place they came from. He does NOT identify them as German, even if they did originate in Germany. Instead, he gives the name of the town or region. As nearly as I could tell from browsing through the photos, the only time he used the words "Deutsche Schaeferhund" was for dogs registered with the SV, or their immediate ancestors.
But then again, that painting may not be from his book.

by Elkoorr on 18 January 2010 - 22:01
Hallo Chris, ich wusste ja gar nicht das du ebenfalls Deutsch bist. Dachte immer das du als Amerikaner fur eine Weile in Deutschland gelebt hast.
by hodie on 18 January 2010 - 23:01
Chris ist eine Frau und sie kommt aus Deutschland. Ich bin eine Amerikanerin. Ich habe in Deutschland und Österreich für eine Weile gelebt!! Das Bild oben sagt:
"Deutche Stockhaarige Schäferhunde"

by Elkoorr on 18 January 2010 - 23:01
by hodie on 18 January 2010 - 23:01

by animules on 18 January 2010 - 23:01
I think I would take the word of numerous people from Germany over a couple years of studying German.
Hi Chris, I hope all is well!

by Sunsilver on 19 January 2010 - 03:01
I hope I didn't butcher that too badly...

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