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by Penny on 04 January 2010 - 15:01

Have you thought about the position of your kennel.  I am getting the impression that she likes her crate, and is content and quiet, and when in a kennel and run, she barks.   So.   Look at WHY.     Dont go for all the gadgets first and upset her and confuse her even more - look for the reason why !!!

Firstly, I would look at the position of the kennel.   Can she see anyone walking past, see other dogs or activity which she would like to get to.
Then I would look to see if there are neighbours that she can hear and perhaps thinks it yourself coming to her.....  Then I would ask how long she is in a kennel and run - and what she has for diversion.   Does she have a big fresh bone that you leave in the kennel and is her treat for being in there.when she comes out, the bone stays in.  Also the chewy toy that is suggested above too

Next How about for starters, the cage, inside the kennel left open, with her bed in there, but make sure she cant hurt herself on the open door,

For me - a shock collar on a puppy that is obviously distressed at being left in a kennel and run is only just helping to compound the problem.  The dog is using DOG BEHAVIOUR IN HER UNDEERSTANDING  not BAD dog behaviour - question her reasoning and get the answer that way.  Good luck.    Mo. Mascani

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 04 January 2010 - 16:01

I don't care for bark collars at all.  
The dog will stop barking sooner or later while in the kennel unless you are sending the wrong signals.
When your not home what is the dog barking at, and who tells you its barking all day?
Where is the kennel situated?

Whats the real problem, neighbors?


djc

by djc on 04 January 2010 - 16:01

Excellent post "Penny"! That was everything I was thinking of also.

The kennel and the crate are 2 different things according to how I read her post.

Debby


CrysBuck25

by CrysBuck25 on 04 January 2010 - 17:01

The impression I got was that the dog is kenneled outdoors and barks all day, but is quiet if kenneled, with the OP not being comfortable with keeping a ten month old pup in a crate for ten hours a day.

I have not had any problems with unwanted barking from Oakley at all, but right from the beginning, I taught her the Hush, or Quiet, command, and she always had something to keep her busy when she was in her crate or not being paid attention to.  Also, I didn't always pay attention to her when she and I were in the same room, just was there with her, same in the yard. 

I would second the big bone...Can't bark if your mouth is busy chewing.

Also, who's telling you that she barks all day?  When I was little, my family had several dogs at once, and one of our neighbors was always calling the police about our dogs barking.  What the jerk failed to mention, and the reason they stopped responding to his calls, was that he would stand on the property line, walk along it, and talk and call out, trying to get the dogs to bark so he could complain.  Total nonsense.  Not saying one of your neighbors is, but there are those jerks who enjoy creating a problem where there is none.

Just my two cents...Never used a bark collar and don't know how well the different models do and don't work.

Crys

by joe ollie lynn on 05 January 2010 - 02:01

 Thank you for all the responses. To clear up a few misunderstandings, the outdoor kennel is fairly large. The inside of the kennel is 6 X 10, and the outside of the kennel is 10 X 15. There is a door so that she is able to go in and out of the kennel. The crate is outside the kennel, when I put her in the crate she is in the outdoor kennel, which allows her to see everything outside. Once I let her out of the crate she starts barking when I leave. Even though it's the same outdoor kennel. When she barks I think that it's because she wants me to either train her or play with her. I've only used her bark collar three times to try it out, the brand of the bark collar is called Tri Tronic. She is at ten months of age. I train her everyday, morning and night, for about 45 minutes. I train her with a ball and tub. Is this enough? I know that she is constantly barking because my wife is at home and because my neighbors have complained. 

BlackthornGSD

by BlackthornGSD on 05 January 2010 - 03:01

Not all dogs will stop barking, even after hours. Usually they will, but not always. In your case--can you pinpoint anything in particular that she is barking at? Can you remove this aggravating factor?

I'd try entertainment toys--you can freeze a Kong with canned dog food inside, give large knuckle or marrow bones, freeze a small bucket or bowl with bits of meat or meatballs or carrots or apple in it so the dog will play with it. Rotate different chew toys daily.

If the dog is getting plenty of exercise and interaction and still bark, I will use a bark collar--I like the Tri-Tronic one. It's not my first choice, but it's better than having angry neighbors.

Make sure that she doesn't get released from the kennel while she is excited and barking. I will stand calmly at the door until my dog sits. To get to that point, I will start from 20 feet away and turn my back whenever the dog is barking and face the dog when she is quiet.

If she's calm when crated and barks in the kennel, then can you leave her crated while you're gone for a month or two and let her grow up a little bit more, gradually increasing her kennel time by 10 minutes a day?

by joe ollie lynn on 05 January 2010 - 04:01

 BlackthornGSD- Thanks for the advice! I've tried using a marrow bone, but after a few hours she becomes bored and starts barking. I'm going to take your advice on crate training. 
Thanks again!

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 05 January 2010 - 04:01

I think the (break in) period depends on the little things, it's training and signals make a difference.  Consistency a must.

I still don't like bark collars.

Your using the crate wrong in my opinion.   
Get a nice dog house for the kennel and move the crate somewhere else, inside, outside its hard for me to visualize what your describing.

The dog could be put in the crate for a time before training or work outs, then put in the kennel afterward, just get the crate out of the kennel.

A habit has already begun, the longer you don't correct it, the longer that will take.

Dunno what kind of neighbor you have, tell him your working it out and ask him to be patient.

You cannot reward a behavior you want to do away with in any way.



Bhaugh

by Bhaugh on 06 January 2010 - 02:01

This may sound stupid but if she is crate trained why not have her in the house? Not too many dogs bark just to hear themselves when they are inside. And should they want to hear themselves barking, the house muffles the sound from neighbors. Ive taken in many rescue dogs that have barking issues and most would bark at the wind. If I had them inside they didnt even think to bark since they me to focus on.


by malshep on 06 January 2010 - 12:01

Bhaugh, I think his wife is home because she told him the pup is barking, I was thinking the same thing. In the garage or house will muffle noises.
Always,
Cee





 


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