herding dog - Page 2

<<Mr. Kintzel ( or others with exp), Do you think pedigreewise,that the type of dog who exels at herding would share similarites with dogs who are talented natural trackers?>>

Mary, please call me by my first name.
I cannot speak to that since my experience in tracking is very, very limited. Others who have dogs of mine think the tracking is good but we all more or less do not have anything to compare with.

It is fair to assume that many herding dogs come with a great deal of work ethic. However, there is no correlation between the dog’s nose and the dog’s herding ability.


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Ulf Kintzel - White Clover Sheep Farm - 683 Bagley Road. Rushville, NY 14544 - PH & FAX: (585) 554-3313 - www.whitecloversheepfarm.com
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“Destiny is not a matter of chance; it is a matter of choice. It is not a thing to be waited for; it is a thing to be achieved.” William Jennings Bryan

<<I'd love to see a picture of your Pyrenees.>>

There are some on my website www.whitecloversheepfarm.com, then go to "picture gallery"

Thanks Ulf,

I was curious because it seems the temperament of a herding dog and a tracking dog would have similarities-- strong work ethic, ability to work independently and problem solve, responsiveness to the handler, etc.

--Mary

Ulf,
I've been to your website before,
caught a glimpse of the dog in one photo.

I thought you might have some better shots of just the dog.

Some might be interested to know if the Pyrenees lives with the sheep full time as some do.

Have you ever had any issues between the Pyrenees and the German Shepherd dogs?

We talk of the German Shepherd dog and herding, but the Pyrenees also is of interest to me.
Have you ever had issues with predators, Coyotes, or roaming domestic dogs?

Do you shear?
Is the wool worth much today, back when I raised domestic sheep and butchered the wool did not bring much of a price.

I also raised Mouflon for many years, we butchered for Muslim exchange students.
I came to prefer the meat and its flavor and the lower fat, and when crossed with Barbados they would lamb twice a year.

All in all this is a fascinating thread.

Moons.

If I had that many sheep, I'd see about making specialty cheese.  http://www.vermontshepherd.com/

So....?

<<I thought you might have some better shots of just the dog.>>

Yes, I do. What is the best way of posting/publishing the pictures on this board?

<<Some might be interested to know if the Pyrenees lives with the sheep full time as some do.>>

Yes.

<<Have you ever had any issues between the Pyrenees and the German Shepherd dogs?>>

The Guard dog is loaded into a trailer when I use my dogs or have a lesson. He’d try to kill any of the dogs.

<<We talk of the German Shepherd dog and herding, but the Pyrenees also is of interest to me.
Have you ever had issues with predators, Coyotes, or roaming domestic dogs?>>

The guard dog pretty much takes care of the coyotes as well as the domestic dogs. With domestic dogs I have to here and then use the shotgun or the dog warden.

<<Do you shear?>>

The few wool sheep I have left, yes. The rest is hair sheep that shed.

<<Is the wool worth much today, back when I raised domestic sheep and butchered the wool did not bring much of a price.>>

No, wool doesn’t bring much money. The sheep are raised for meat.

Ulf