Best treats for obedience training?

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by DKiah on 29 September 2009 - 11:09

Somebody said,.. the dog has to like it! That is it! It has to have high valuet to the dog or you get blah!

I am not necessarily a food spitter, on occasion i do but unless you and your dog are very very accurate, you have a dog who is always looking on the floor for reward .. however, I always have food in my mouth. If you notice, people who feed from their hand or a pocket have a dog who focuses on the hand or the pocket.. so why not make the focus be your face!

I cook treats along with cut up hot dogs or smoked sausage or string cheese. This week Publix has bottom round beef roast on sale for $1.97/lb.. it cooks up great, cuts into great sized cubes and freezes well. Kroger and Ingles have pork loin on sale for $1.98/1.99 lb... again, easy to cook, use lots of spices .....
Dogs love these items......

Have fun

by SitasMom on 29 September 2009 - 11:09

As part of focus developing, sometimes we're asked to "spit" food. I found that many of the prepared dog treats had lots of salt and sugar.....plus putting dog treats in my mouth ...... well, it just made me want to gagg... I'm such a whimp, never make in on one of those survival shows!

I use bits and peices of meat and checken leftovers and hotdogs. It seems to help when its not the same thing every day.

When using hotdogs, I freeze the package whole, while still frozen solid, take off the wrapper and am able to slice the whole package at one very thinly (1/8" to 3/16)". Then seperate the protion for traininng and put most of them in a ziploc bag still frozen, back in the freezer. This saves time for next time and there's much less spoilage.

by tristatek9 on 29 September 2009 - 12:09

Why would you ever start treats for OB? What if you have no treat and you want your dog to do something??? www.tristatek-9.com

by sueincc on 29 September 2009 - 14:09

TriState: I use bait during the teaching phase, then phase out the bait or (give bait only occasionally) because it's easier to teach a happy driven dog. The dog eventually learns he must be correct, and if he is not correct he will be corrected, but before introducing corrections, he must understand what "correct" is.

by Red Leg on 29 September 2009 - 15:09

maybe i should have stated in the original post that my dog is only 3 months old.

by SitasMom on 29 September 2009 - 16:09

lots of love, hotdogs and meat, poltry table scraps - and lots and lots of praise too.
have fun, they are so cute at that age.

by happyday on 29 September 2009 - 16:09

Tristate: as suenicc states bait is used to achieve and learn a behavior - Suenicc states she uses it only on occassion - but I have found during the training phase - such as focus - heeling to look at me, or even just coming to me, for example- the more you reward the more you get the behavior.... repetition gets the behavior even when not asked for... I can let my dog's out of their kennel and they start performing ob without food or compulsion - it is habit and I achieved it by the bait.... later correction comes when I want perfection in the behavior....

Happyday

by haines04 on 29 September 2009 - 17:09

For sure what ever workd for your dog! If you use to much they can get constipated. I used hotdog cuz I don't usually train with treat unless I have too for class like CGC or agility. my female took to hotdogs & one night had some left over chix breast & those seemed to go over extremelly well then Don't tell my husband but he had left over ribeye I though was in fridge for 2 days he wasn't going to eat! So every since I buy reduced quick sale strip streak put some garlic powder grill them cut into peices or chix breast i marinate in ceaser salad dressing (try this for yourself!) grill bout 10min on each side perfect!

goodluck

by sueincc on 29 September 2009 - 17:09

I agree with Happy Day, and I don't stop liberal "paying" of the dog until he knows the exercise 100%, for my dog, (and I bet most of us have this kind of dog), the ball or tug has so much more value to the dog than bait, so I don't have much occasion to use food reward much beyond the initial teaching phase of an exercise. It's just harder to try and train most exercises initially with tug or ball because our dogs go berserk when we pull them out!

by Two Moons on 29 September 2009 - 17:09

Perhaps the word (the term) should have been (reward),
Treats are used for puppies in the very beginning because of the puppies age and its immediate motivation, but should be tapered off as you progress. Rewards are always used as you progress and can be anything that motives the animal.
Praise, a ball or toy, playtime of any sort, or food, or maybe just a little love.
Not the removal of a pinch collar, or shocking device.

P.S.
I agree with Jim that you can't base obedience on a treat, not if your serious about obedience.

I use whatever the puppy likes which is anything I like,
hot dogs, any kind of meat
cheese puffs (messy)
kraft singles torn into pieces
Salty crackers or chips in small pieces

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