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I agree with vfg on some things.  If you are to breed him, pair him with a bitch with good bone, better front assemly and better croup.  Along with better pasterns.  He is still young at 4 and may continue to fill out.  I'm not too up on his blood lines and their ability to mature.  My 4 year old male looks similar in physical maturity. My male has very good and defined muscle tone and mass.  Not sure about your male, but mine you can not see from a photo.  Looking at his progeny, I'd pair him what I mentioned above.
Otherwise, I think he is a fine looking dog. As you know people have preference. Always remember that. Just because one wouldn't like to use him does not mean another couldn't benefit from what he has to offer.
Brandi and Dugan v. Eichenluft

 

I agree with vfg on some things.  If you are to breed him, pair him with a bitch with good bone, better front assemly and better croup.  Along with better pasterns.  He is still young at 4 and may continue to fill out.  I'm not too up on his blood lines and their ability to mature.  My 4 year old male looks similar in physical maturity. My male has very good and defined muscle tone and mass.  Not sure about your male, but mine you can not see from a photo.  Looking at his progeny, I'd pair him what I mentioned above.
Otherwise, I think he is a fine looking dog. As you know people have preference. Always remember that. Just because one wouldn't like to use him does not mean another couldn't benefit from what he has to offer.
Brandi and Dugan v. Eichenluft

 

I agree with vfg on some things.  If you are to breed him, pair him with a bitch with good bone, better front assemly and better croup.  Along with better pasterns.  He is still young at 4 and may continue to fill out.  I'm not too up on his blood lines and their ability to mature.  My 4 year old male looks similar in physical maturity. My male has very good and defined muscle tone and mass.  Not sure about your male, but mine you can not see from a photo.  Looking at his progeny, I'd pair him what I mentioned above.
Otherwise, I think he is a fine looking dog. As you know people have preference. Always remember that. Just because one wouldn't like to use him does not mean another couldn't benefit from what he has to offer.
Brandi and Dugan v. Eichenluft

 

awesome I have a very ugly dog that can work and has great hips and elbows.  I still think I am doing well.. LOL
Can't have it all.
Smaller female, strong bones and strong front... did I get it right?
Thank you
Pack

Pack, he is not ugly. I have seen this dog in person and can vouch for that. He is a really good looking dog. Maybe you're just really bad at taking pictures (:

I like his looks in that last pic.  Maybe a little light in bone but I would take him.