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by Rik on 26 June 2009 - 03:06
Sunsilver, I have been in this situation several times. The absolute worst was a bitch I bred from a top "select Champion" I never had her prelimed because she never limped a day in her life and could literally jump higher than my head.
At 2 yo, I took her in for OFA x-rays. She had no socket and practically no head on the femur. The vet said that the only thing he could figure is that because there was no bone to bone contact, she was never in pain. It was a very hard loss for me.
Condolences,
Rik
At 2 yo, I took her in for OFA x-rays. She had no socket and practically no head on the femur. The vet said that the only thing he could figure is that because there was no bone to bone contact, she was never in pain. It was a very hard loss for me.
Condolences,
Rik

by Jenni78 on 26 June 2009 - 22:06
Not saying I disagree w/not breeding this dog (because I do agree), but IMO, from many many things I have studied, I do not believe UNILATERAL hip dysplasia to be genetic in origin. Is it the left hip that is subluxated, Sunsilver?
http://www.showdogsupersite.com/hips.html
http://www.showdogsupersite.com/hips.html

by Kalibeck on 27 June 2009 - 04:06
Sorry I am just catching up here...but Sunsilver yours were done just a couple days before mine, I believe, & I am expecting the same result, given the way Beckett's X-ray looked....& yes, he was my 'big $$$' dog...... I, too, am heartbroken.
Jenni78, why do you believe that unilateral hip dysplasia is not genetic? We did everything 'right' with Beckett, followed all the rules....& on a similar note, I myself was born with 1 bad hip, my right one, my MD used to call me a 'German Shepherd' when I was a kid, 'cause I was always popping it out of the socket....he even taught me how to pop it back in by myself....& mine was genetic. How can it be so different in dogs? And why would the side matter? Not trying to pick a fight, I've been beating myself up over his x-ray, wondering what could have been done differently. I would be surprised if he comes back with a fair, I expect him to be graded dysplastic....but even if he got a 'good' by some fluke, I think he's getting neutered anyway. I know what it looks like, I couldn't pass that on.....even tho' he's SO very nice in every other way.....damn it! jackie harris

Jenni78, why do you believe that unilateral hip dysplasia is not genetic? We did everything 'right' with Beckett, followed all the rules....& on a similar note, I myself was born with 1 bad hip, my right one, my MD used to call me a 'German Shepherd' when I was a kid, 'cause I was always popping it out of the socket....he even taught me how to pop it back in by myself....& mine was genetic. How can it be so different in dogs? And why would the side matter? Not trying to pick a fight, I've been beating myself up over his x-ray, wondering what could have been done differently. I would be surprised if he comes back with a fair, I expect him to be graded dysplastic....but even if he got a 'good' by some fluke, I think he's getting neutered anyway. I know what it looks like, I couldn't pass that on.....even tho' he's SO very nice in every other way.....damn it! jackie harris

by sueincc on 27 June 2009 - 04:06
http://www.showdogsupersite.com/hips.html
Kalibeck I will be keeping everything crossed he comes out with passing hips. I think in the article Jenn mentioned, (I posted a link you can just click on), the author is saying in part, they have seen almost no unilateral HD in litters of pups who are kenneled and raised together that run and play continually, but they have seen it in littermates raised by conventional wisdom (very little stress on growing puppies joints).
It's very provactive and thought provoking, but I think there needs to be a lot more data than what can be generated from one vets office before anyone can make any conclusions about this one way or the other.
Kalibeck I will be keeping everything crossed he comes out with passing hips. I think in the article Jenn mentioned, (I posted a link you can just click on), the author is saying in part, they have seen almost no unilateral HD in litters of pups who are kenneled and raised together that run and play continually, but they have seen it in littermates raised by conventional wisdom (very little stress on growing puppies joints).
It's very provactive and thought provoking, but I think there needs to be a lot more data than what can be generated from one vets office before anyone can make any conclusions about this one way or the other.

by EKvonEarnhardt on 27 June 2009 - 05:06
To all that have or are going though this I feel your pain and heartache. My Condolences,
EK

by Kalibeck on 27 June 2009 - 16:06
OK--got that horrid white letter today.......I've been crying, so please forgive the typos...elbows normal......right hip mild dyplasia & subluxated. Damn, damn, double damn! Will call the vet Monday for an appointment to neuter him. I knew it was coming, but I'm totally trashed by this....Shelley is devastated, too. Thanks for the good thoughts, everyone....I can't believe how bad it hurts. I love the big boy, I so wanted him to be OK.....jh

by Sunsilver on 27 June 2009 - 17:06
Kali, I know EXACTLY how bad it hurts. (Same hip, too! Are our dogs twins or somthing?)
I've shed many a tear since getting the letter. I REALLY wanted to have a litter with Star. And to add to the pain, my good friend, whose Shiloh managed to survive a case of pyometra, and keep her uterus....
just had an ultrasound done on her and she is PREGNANT, with at least 4 pups!
I'm feeling so rotten, I haven't been able to congratulate her on it yet!
Mind you, I don't envy her the thousands of dollars this has all cost her: hospitalizaiton at the Ontario Veterinary College for 10 days to treat the pyo, then two rounds of artificial insemination, also at the college, which is about a 3 1/2 hour trip for her.
One upside: her boy, who provided the semen, now LIKES going to the vet!
P.S. I sure hope your neutering surgery goes a heck of a lot better than Star's!
I've shed many a tear since getting the letter. I REALLY wanted to have a litter with Star. And to add to the pain, my good friend, whose Shiloh managed to survive a case of pyometra, and keep her uterus....
just had an ultrasound done on her and she is PREGNANT, with at least 4 pups!

I'm feeling so rotten, I haven't been able to congratulate her on it yet!
Mind you, I don't envy her the thousands of dollars this has all cost her: hospitalizaiton at the Ontario Veterinary College for 10 days to treat the pyo, then two rounds of artificial insemination, also at the college, which is about a 3 1/2 hour trip for her.
One upside: her boy, who provided the semen, now LIKES going to the vet!

P.S. I sure hope your neutering surgery goes a heck of a lot better than Star's!


by Kalibeck on 27 June 2009 - 18:06
It should be, my vet & I are on the same page most of the time, & well let's face it, it's an easier procedure with a male....Beckett's junk is readily available..... I hope Star is feeling better soon. jackie harris

by CrysBuck25 on 27 June 2009 - 22:06
My condolences, Sunsilver and Kalibeck.
I can't imagine how it must feel, but my heart goes out to you for all that you are going through right now.
Crys
I can't imagine how it must feel, but my heart goes out to you for all that you are going through right now.
Crys

by luvdemdogs on 27 June 2009 - 23:06
awwe, man - that sucks.......
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