training a dog for an older owner - Page 2

You do not need an E collar to train a Wheaton, that has been with your Mom all this time...he already is her dog..and no she cannot do it herself...but no good rep trainer of Service dogs is gonna use an e=collar...

THe toughest german sheherds are trained without an e collar...and then there are some top dogs that have had every thing from an E collar to a pair of pliers  used on them........

I would not allow an E collar on my  inside pet...I have cockers that are wired   .....E Collar......RIDICULIOUS

PHOEBE:   YOU OVERSEE THIS....,   INTERVIEW THE PERSON DOING THE TRAINING.......DO  NOT TELL YOUR MOM ABOUT     E   COLLARS....BELIEVE ME    ...I AM A SENIOR CITIZEN AND IF MY DAUGHTER SENT MY COCKER OFF AND SAID   HE WAS BEING TRAINED AND I KNEW THE E COLLAR HAD BEEN EVEN  MENTIONED ....

I WOULD BE IN  TERROR AND NOT SLEEP FOR DAYS....

I KNOW WHAT AN  E  COLLAR  , IN THE HANDS OF THE WRONG TRAINERS, CAN DO...!!!!  I HAVE SEEN IT.!!!!!!

AND THEN THE TRAINER , EVEN THOUGH HAD GRADUATED FROM A TRAINING SCHOOL FOR DOGS....HAS MANY CHARGES AGAINST HIM FOR ABUSE OF ANIMALS......


QUICK TRAINING BRINGS EASY QUICK ,MONEY............................JUST BE AWARE


GOOD LUCK  ,   KEEP US INFORMED.....WHEATONS ARE NEAT DOGS....  LIKE THE  LITTLE BULL DOGS,,,CAN BE THE DEVIL INCARNATE..

phoebe,
I didn't mean to turn this into an argument about the use of e-collars.
Your mom sounds like she has a strong will and keeps her own council.
She has other options and may decide on something else in time.
I wanted to bring my mother in-law here so that my family could be near her and assist her in her last few years but her own children fought it and put her in an (assisted living center), she died from septic shock three months after the move.
You never know who's caring for your loved one when its not you. 
She did not receive the care she needed and for that I am sad.
I offered the same to my own mother who was strong willed and very independent, and she refused.
She let herself go and died alone.  She went in her sleep and didn't suffer any pain except for the pain of loneliness eighty miles away. 
I wish I had tried harder to convince her to come stay with us.   That's what families are supposed to do.   We have lost those ways over the years and its a sad sign of the times.
My Grandfather died in his own bed with all his family around him but that was almost fifty years ago. 
Sometimes we might think we are putting a burden on our children, and sometimes children do not think they could handle taking care of a parent, but thats how it's supposed to be truth be told.
It's a very personal matter and none of our business how your family deals with it phoebe, I just wanted to say this because its something my family will have to consider one day also. 
I know what my plans are.
Families should talk more about these things, families should talk more about a lot of things.
Theres more to consider than who's gonna walk the dog.
I never wish for a long life, only a good life.
Best wishes,
Moons.

Phoebe, Please don't take your Mom's dog away from her. I'm a hospice nurse, & I see situations like this dealt with by our administration & social workers all the time, they put safety first, & I know they're looking out for the best interests of our patients, but sometimes a persons autonomy & diginity are equally important. Our patients come into our inpatient unit, generally resigned to whatever their fate is going to be, they (usually) have resigned themselves to the loss of their home, their neighbors, friends, family, even the idea of letting go of life has been accepted. But the one thing that breaks our patients up more than anything else, is having to say goodbye to their much loved pets, who have brought them so much joy, comfort, solace, & unconditional love. We allow pets to come visit, even tho' we are in a hospital setting, & those reunions are more joyful than those of long lost relatives...for pets have no agenda other than to love you.

I know that you are working to keep them together, but when your Mom begins to use a walker, or becomes bed-bound, those are more losses for her, it's important to let her keep her loving companion. Persons with limited mobility are certainly at risk for falls, but they also lose a lot of stimulation, & are frequently 'touch' deprived, & a pet can compansate for that wonderfully. You know her situation best, & how important her dog is to her, but please keep in mind that there are services available in most areas of the country that will assist your Mom in caring for her pet even as she becomes more frail. I know our home health aides often assist in pet care, even if it isn't in their job description!

Good luck in your efforts, & I send my prayers out to you & your Mom, that everything works out well for her & her pet, Rory. jackie harris

Thanks for all your comments.  My husband and I are driving to see my mom in an hour or so for the weekend.  I am staying an extra day to help with some things that need a workday.  We are going to remind her of the thousand times she said she never wanted to go to a nursing home.  She knows she always has a place with me, and she can keep her dog here of course.  My goal is to keep her independent until she really needs care, and then give it at home.  My uncle is 91 and lives alone at home, with daily visits.  

We will discuss the dog.  I do not have a problem with e-collars if they are used correctly.  I will supervise at least some of the training.  The dog will absolutely not be sent anywhere for training.  The dog will not be trained with heavy handed methods, but my mom cannot be pulled over.  The wheaton is very sweet, but races around when he is excited.  He just has to learn to do that on command, and return when called.  I am sure this can be done.

I told my mother about the "place" command and we will work on that this weekend with him.  A lot can be done with shaping behavior.