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by Adi Ibrahimbegovic on 21 May 2009 - 00:05

AS SOON AS HIS BUTT TOUCHES THE GROUND THROW THE BALL OR A STICK AT THAT VERY MOMENT AS A REWARD, NO DELAY. That is caled "aring". Could be verba could be clicker, could be just doing it that very instant, so in the dog's mind it goes like: If I do this, he wil do that...

You can introduce delay or "delayed gratification" later on, when the dog is older, more mature and highy skiled. Younger dogs and pups with attention span of a gnat, imediate and instant reward and gratification. Therefore you MARKED that behavior as good. Repeat, repeat and repeat, don't be a killjoy and burn the dog with constant orders, always do it while the dog is having fun and you should be good to go.

 


luvdemdogs

by luvdemdogs on 21 May 2009 - 04:05

wowowowowow!  thank you for the amazing information - now I really have something to work with! 

by ocoey on 21 May 2009 - 05:05

I like your training style Adi!  I'm curious, any expereince training a dog to stand like you can drop or sit him?  Now that I have seen it done I have to do it myself!

I have taken a similar approach to they way we both taught sit or down just applying it at a distance (She already knows the stand command).  I'm just repeating the crap out of it until it is what I call the 'new best trick' , the first behavour that is offered when she wants something.

by mobjack on 22 May 2009 - 02:05

Adi you are so right on and explained it SO much better than I ever could. No gimmicks, tricks or shortcuts will ever produce what just plain time and effort can. Take time every day to TEACH the dog. And be smarter than the dog. Be inventive, creative and never stop teaching.

Mindhunt

by Mindhunt on 22 May 2009 - 03:05

I like your training style as well Adi.
I do what has already been said here. Start out at a young age (still works for older dogs as well) and work in little steps. My husband calls it "play training" or "fun training", always making sure a dog sees obedience training as fun. The training doesn't have to be organized, it can be spur of the moment if the oppurtunity presents itself like Adi stated.  When adding distance, it is always done in little increments. Don't get discouraged if you or your dog oops, it all part of the process. One thing is try not to set your dog up for failure, make sure your dog has the concept down, (as Adi said) is bulletproof in the concept, then introduce distractions, but then only under controlled conditions so you can step in before your dog makes a big goof. Praising for doing things correctly is always way more fun then having to correct.

Oh and buy a good pair of shoes, you're going to be doing a lot of walking

by 1doggie2 on 22 May 2009 - 04:05

I have a very deep scar on the back of my knee, this need to be said first.  I use fishing line made for the big fish and tie it to the dog's collar and then a wooden rod that can roll out fast. The first time I did this, the dog went off like a rocket and the line got tangled around me and almost sliced my leg off thru a pair of Jeans. I think the only thing that stoped him was me screaming in fear, the pain came later.

Rezkat5

by Rezkat5 on 22 May 2009 - 04:05

repetition and increase the distance little by little and as moons said when the dog is starting to get the concept and does test things and break, you go back and return the dog to its original position.  Then add distraction and different locations.   And yes don't forget to praise the dog when it's done well.  

In the beginning I do the "play" training as Adi described.   And yes working three at once is hard, I'd work them one at a time then eventually can work them in pairs then all three, but that takes some time, but can be fun too.  Duel dog send aways are quite fun!   LOL   Or duel dog recalls across a big field.   They try to race, but my girl usually ends up kicking my boys butt! 

 

 


Rezkat5

by Rezkat5 on 22 May 2009 - 04:05

There is also shaping of behaviors, which I've never quite had the patience to do, but want to with my next pup.   Usually a clicker or a verbal marker such as "yes" is used.  






 


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