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by jayne241 on 12 May 2009 - 21:05

I know lots of people who know what the song says and means.

But I don't think expressing compassion/regret/whatever for atrocities inflicted on the Indians implies indifference to atrocities inflicted on African Americans.  ???  Do you have to mention every atrocity ever committed if you're going to mention one?

buckeyefan gsd

by buckeyefan gsd on 12 May 2009 - 21:05

i just find it so amazing how today we justify crossing borders because we are scared the tyrant leaders will not treat their neighborskindly enough,when our country was settled 200+ years ago by the same type of massacre and cruelty.dont get me wrong,i am damn gladtohave been born and raised here.ijust think weshould fix here instead of there.if there were more jobs here people might not have time for such narrow minded thinking!!!!!!!!!


Red Sable

by Red Sable on 12 May 2009 - 21:05

Well maybe you folks that think we deserve to pay for what happened 200 years ago, should give your home to the Indians, put your money where your mouth is, so to speak, because here they are just taking it.

Adding:  and do you know the sad part?  They won't even appreciate it, because they didn't work for it.  They get free education, how many take advantage of it?

buckeyefan gsd

by buckeyefan gsd on 12 May 2009 - 21:05

we dont need to pay for it ,we should just remember how you get freedom and land before we sacrifice our young men and women stopping it from happening in the rest of the world.

CrysBuck25

by CrysBuck25 on 12 May 2009 - 22:05

I don't say that we should forget about the past, but neither should our noses be rubbed in it all the time.  "You awful, terrible whites...you owned slaves, you drove the Native Americans off their lands..."  and the list goes on.  Yes, those things did happen, and yes, people died.  I don't dispute that.  But for every Indian, black, Jew, Mexican, or anything else that's ever died at the hands of a white man, there's been a larger number of whites who have died at the hands of those peoples, or even at the hands of other whites. 

Please, let's remember that every country has it's dark side, every race has it's dirty history, and nothing any of us does will change that.  I didn't own slaves.  Maybe my ancestors did, maybe not.  Frankly, I don't care.  Perhaps my ancestors were themselves slaves, being as many of them came from Europe, where anyone who was not of royal blood was essentially a slave.  Frankly, I still don't care.  Throughout human history, it has been the habit of mankind to try and take control of everything in sight.  That's what humans do.  It's been done for thousands of years, it continues today, sugarcoated in the form of 'saving people from themselves', and it will continue until the end of time, or until, as us Christians believe, the end of times comes and we are called to judgement, to face our Maker.

It does say in the Bible: "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God..."
And :"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

Stones, anyone?"

rainforestscouts

by rainforestscouts on 12 May 2009 - 22:05

way to go Moons.  (whistle, whistle, whistle) here Ugly.

what ever happened to DR?

RFS

by zdog on 12 May 2009 - 22:05

has anyone watched the show?  It's intent isn't to rub the noses of white folks in their atrocities and hoping to guilt white americans into giving indians more stuff.  It was a great show and it is damn embarassing that our gov't and our nation holds this idea of what America is, when our actions are not even close to the myth. 

buckeyefan gsd

by buckeyefan gsd on 12 May 2009 - 22:05

well put zdog.i will have to check the t.v. guide to see the next airing.


Two Moons

by Two Moons on 12 May 2009 - 22:05

Nothing to get over, I owe nothing to anyone.
Its a good program and a bit of history you wont find in the history books your kids use in school.

Yes the myth lives on.   And so does the problem.

Anyway, you had something new to talk about.

Moons.


buckeyefan gsd

by buckeyefan gsd on 12 May 2009 - 22:05

is dr dessert ranger?if so i havent seen a post from dr for a long while.





 


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