Do you train the "prey shaking" out of them? - Page 2

From puppy hood, however, you can inadvertantly teach a shallow grip.......once the puppy learns it, it's called a habbit!  Why imprint a bad habbit????????  Happens with poor decoy work with great dogs all the time!  Just have fun with your puppy, be careful with his mouth when he is teething and don't worry about the whinning or head shaking right now at all.  I had a young dog linebred 4-3 on Asko vd Lutter that would whine(when I say whine, it was like he was strippin' gears!) when I used a broom to sweep the floor, when water was sprayed on the kennel floor, when I used a mop, on the tug and it was because he had "conviction" about winning the tug and crazy prey and agression!  Never had any nerve or temperament issues just very vocal for the tug and vocal when on it too!  Sold him to a Police Deapartment for dual purpose dog!  He was more dog and more agression than I like for my personal dog......that is also why my dog Valko is for sale!

Also, here is an example of a dog that I have personal experience with that had a "jacked up" grip because of poor training.

This dog has awesome grips now, had awesome grips with his original owner in Germany (the videos show the dogs power in the grips!).  Anyway, this dog goes to a couple of people and then to me.  When I went to see the dog work in person before purchasing him the handler had the electric collar on the dog with the box behind the dogs right ear and not around under the neck.  The reasoning behind putting the box on the e-collar behind the dogs ear is unclear to me.  Any insight would be welcome here!  

The handler said the dog was dirty in the blind so the dog would come around the blind, bark 3 times and handler would issue a correction, this happened repeatedly for a few months.  Anywho, I bought this dog, brought it home and took him to my trainer, VERY WELL KNOWN TRAINER....the trainer kept saying he thought the dog had a dental issue because he would drift on the sleeve to the right or towards the elbow.  I took this dog to 2 veterinary dentists looking searching for the dental issue!  Finally realized this dogs grip was jacked up because of the e-collar correction coming from behind the ear and down to the jaw muscle.  I also believe that the collar was turned up so hot that this caused contraction of the jaw muscle, conflict in the dog as to when to bite and GRIP ISSUES!  I worked this dog for about 5 months and his grip is extremely nice and he outs beautifully.....did it all with a good trainer and NO electricity!  Genetic or not you CAN fuck up a grip! 

Also, we don't have any video to see the puppy and see what his body language is and what exactly the whinning is all about so it is difficult to make a "real" assesment over the internet.  I equate it to a physician diagnosing cancer over the internet without physically seeing the person and relying only on some words from an 1st year intern.

Regards,

Vickie
www.PowerHausKennels.com

Vikram,

My bad....sorry, thought you were dirrecting your statement towards me.

Vickie
www.PowerHausKennels.com