Pics-US troops patrolling US Streets in Idaho-OT - Page 2

I live about forty miles north of Hayden, Idaho...Tell me, folks, does anyone on here still think we're free?  Yes, we have freedom of speech, as long as we are politically correct and don't offend people of differing skin colors, sexual preferences, or political parties, or say something that is construed by the government as being seditious...

Yes, we have a lot of 'freedom'.  We have the right to work, if we can find a job, pay taxes, do what we're told, and shut up.  We have the freedom to own a home, as long as we pay the taxes that such a privilege comes with.  We have the freedom to drive down the road, provided we pay for insurance, car and driver licensing, and follow all the laws that govern said road.  Some of us still have the right to own a gun, provided that it conforms to what is legal, under the laws currently in effect, it stays in full view of God and everyone, or we have a concealed permit. 

When we have soldiers training on city streets, it begs the question: What are they training for?  With all of the economic trouble, so many people losing all that they have, and desperation becoming about all that most families feel these days, I wonder what is expected by the military.  Are they expecting the next American Revolution? 

This national state of depression (financial and emotional) that we are falling into is pushing too many over the edge.  There are no industries that are not hit by the present state of affairs.  And it cannot be blamed entirely on the Republicans, either.  The Democrats had a hand in it, too.

Our country is in debt, deeply, and it's only getting worse.  Obama promises tax cuts, along with his hundreds of billions of dollars in 'stimulous' funding.  If they bankrupted every American, they couldn't begin to cover the debt. 

Obama promised he'd pull troops out of Iraq.  Not only has he made no attempt to do so yet, but he's planning to send tens of thousands more troops over to Afganistan.  And then there's his Secretary of State, Hillary Clintion, promising 900 million dollars to help rebuild Gaza.  Isn't that just like the politicians to rob their own people?  When Americans can't afford to eat, let them pay to rebuild the sand castles of a crumbling country, a country that has never stood on its own feet and never will.  Apparently Americans aren't yet willing to say no more, but it's coming soon. 

God Help the USA.

Crys

I guess growing up near a major military base, these images don't bother me.  looks like training to me.

What a bunch of hooey.

You know, I might just be a dumb soldier out to kill US citizens -- but my unit goes out like that fairly regularly for training purposes and PT around the city of Charlottesville.  My ROTC did stuff like that on a regular basis as well...in and around Blacksburg.

Full combat gear my hiney -- the first picture shows a guy with a patrol cap and a fleecy, and half of them don't even have weapons.  It's probably just a road march for their PT.  You should come down to Virginia Tech -- you'd see the cadets looking exactly like on a regular basis.

I'll have to find some pictures of the Army 'patrolling' the campus of VT.

~Cate

Irreguardless of what you part time and cadet soldiers say according to the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATE it is unconstitutional and illegal as interperted and written by the founding fathers for any armed force authorized by any congress or president to be stationed  at active duty or be active duty at the direction of the federal govt on american soil PERIOD!!  And the national guard is under the authority of the fed since the pres.tells the govs what to do. The states have been stripped of their sovergienty. You see evidence of this now for they are refusing to take nonexistant money from the fed so they will not have to cow down to the fed. And all you part timers tell me when any pt training involved taking weapons into the community ? What need of full combat gear most americans do not even own a freakin gun let alone a full automatic with squad force strength. regular american forces should not even be training in suburban locations period. And just for your info soon you will be seeing united nations forces here traing in your back yard also! Wake up america if you do not act not they will soon take us away! Call your congressman and senator today and voice your opinion.

Last time I heard some hooey like this, it was a "patriot" living in Idaho at Bo Gris's enclave. She railed about "troops sighted in Tacoma!!!" Well, duh, Fort Lewis is right there and I see them in the McDonalds every week, too. Sheesh!

OK- first of all....it's in the constitution of the United States that soldiers can't train on US soil?  Especially when that training involves nothing more than walking down the street with what are probably mock weapons?

So you would rather see your citizen soldiers not train?  Not be fit?  Because it's pretty hard to do that in our Armories...we usually have two or three units in a Gym sized building in the middle of a town or city.  It's a training exercise or PT -- it's not a battle movement, it's not a deployment, it's not a mission and they're not doing it on the behest of the president.

And the National Guard is primarily owned by the state, their Gov. and their TAG.  And they frequently fullfil stateside missions...for example -- several units were activated by their TAGs for Hurrican Katrina....on US soil.

Raymond -- at VT we frequently went out in the community for PT on road marches with our Rubber Ducks (which look exactly like a real M-16....just parts of them are filled rubber).  The reason being that :

1. There is a way to properly hold the weapon while on patrol, and it's pretty taxing
2. Road marches are hard...and there harder when you have a heavy 3 foot thing keeping you from swinging your arms.
3. SAWs weigh a great deal -- and when overseas your going to have to wear all this gear all the time.  It takes quite a bit of conditioning to be able to move for any distance with it on.

Though...PS...like I said -- most of these soldiers arent even in full battle rattle and half of them dont even have weapons.

Additionally, when I was in ROTC, we would take these same ducks out on campus so we could learn Battle Movements and Urban Operations and movement.  It's how we trained...because Blacksburg, like Charlottesville, doesnt have a base nearby.

~Cate

 Some here  consider a full active military brigade stationed here and traing here for the sole and exclusive purpose of "crowd controll in an emergency " hooey? Our emmigration dept. cannot find 12 million illegal aliens in this country yet a full brigade for "crowd controll in an emergency" Perhaps most should read the fine print in these new homeland security bills being passed by our patriotic congress right now. And when do we  see armed  federal military personell eating at Mc Donalds .we saw armed federal military personell confiscating legal firearms from american citizens in  new Orleans without warrants or probable cause.what is happening in america is EXACTLYwhat happened in Germany prior to ww2 as Hitler siezed total dictatorial control. First you create a panic riddled society then strip the constitution and then disarm the populace so they cannot fight back then station troops to put down any protests. Those protester are then sent to the detention camps. The scene  is set and we only lack the complete crisis to set the people into the streets in protest. It is starting to happen now

You call a unit that convenes and trains for two days out of a month stationed??

wow.

~Cate