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Warrior

by Warrior on 20 February 2009 - 22:02

The woman lives on several acres of land and says she runs with her daily but maybe that's all she gets
What I really think is that the dog needs more exercise not just physical but mental. What I really see is that the owners live out of the way perhaps of people and places she is in Vermont and I think this dog is not getting out into the world enough other wise why would it act nuts when it sees people or other dogs that it does not know? There really is no other reason but a health issue which is slightly likely, its sad though because so many people don't put up with this and they don't take much time working through it and the poor dogs end up in a shelter, she already called a shelter and asked if they home dogs really well. I know she loves the dog though and is trying she says she was crying a lot over this and both her and her husband really seem nice when they picked her up they fell in love with her but now they said its not the furry puppy that once knew but what dog stays a puppy? they all grow up and are very protective in this breed. I just think maybe they are scared of law suits.

If anything happens like if they want to rehouse her I will post her here if anyone is interested in this dog. I am in MD and would arrange to get her back if the woman makes her mind up to not fix this. The dog is a dark red sable long coat and is large aprox 25 in height and big bones. weighing between 70-80 at 9 months old
 


Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 20 February 2009 - 22:02

Can you post pics and pedigree please? I just had someone ask me about this dog when I told them the story. I thought the "fear" idea involving jumping through a window was kind of funny. But I'm kind of twisted. Anyway, PM me if you want...but I know someone who may be interested.

Red Sable

by Red Sable on 20 February 2009 - 23:02

 "Send that stupid vet back to med school! Prednisone can actually trigger psychosis in humans, and its effect on animals is pretty much the same!  Back in the my riding days, one of the boarders at the stable had a horse who was on it. The owner had just finished giving a lecture to the pony club on safety, then went out to ride his horse. For no reason at all, the horse freaked out, reared, and flipped over on top of him. Luckily, this was indoors, and the arena surface was soft enough that the guy wasn't badly hurt"

Our vet puts our race horses on prednisone all the time, with no ill effects, that I've ever seen.  Honestly, this is the first I've heard of that.


Bucko

by Bucko on 21 February 2009 - 00:02

9 months is right smack in the middle of the final fear period.  Do nothing stressful right now, but get her out into the world almost every day in non-threatening and fun (bring hot dogs) ways.

The dog may be too much for this family right now.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 21 February 2009 - 00:02

Am I the only one who has never seen a very frightened dog jump through a window wanting to kill someone he/she didn't like? If this dog is acting out of fear, well, she's pretty damn good at facing her fears, LOL.

Racehorses on prednisone all the time? Someone really thinks this is OK? Just one more reason I'm not involved in racehorses...yuck. Poor things. IT'S A STERIOD!!! Hello???????????????????? Google long term effects of steroids on ANY LIVING THING.


Ryanhaus

by Ryanhaus on 21 February 2009 - 01:02

People that call themselves "Professional Dog Trainers" then give up on a certain dog
boggle my mind, if you are a REAL "Dog Trainer" you should consider a dog as such to be a challenge
and not run from it with your tail between your legs,

People may poke fun at Cesar Millan, but at least he keeps at it, no matter how vicious the animal....

I have been surrounded by dogs all my life, I can almost see their next move, I am planing to take some
courses in animal behaviour and training, I can't wait to be a certified dog trainer

I also see alot of mistakes in conditioning and training among the owners of GSD's, certain owners can be unaware
that they are going about their routine with their GSD all wrong, in training your dog, I have found that it does have a lot
to do with body language, think of your dog as a hearing impaired person, trying to read you.

And please......no human psychotic meds for the poor animal, look at what happened with the 200 pound chimp in CT.
The owner gives it a Xanax  cause it was acting a little funny that morning, now do you think the chimp could have
expressed his feelings if he was having any side effects and maybe said, "I feel really weird like I'm about to rip
your friends face off, can you bring me to the emergency room?"

http://www.nypost.com/seven/02172009/news/regionalnews/havoc_as_chimp_goes_ape_155576.htm

Ya pretty good, Stupid Humans.....

 


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 21 February 2009 - 04:02

RedSable, it depends on the dose. My best friend was a kidney transplant, and she was on a low dose of pred. all the time, to supress rejection of the kidney. (Yes, pred suppresses the immune system, in addition to numerous other nasty side effects.)

With long-term use, her bones got so thin that she fractured her foot stepping off a curb.

In high doses, it caused a patient with terminal respiratory disease to freak out, jump out of his wheelchair, fight off the doctor, and run down 5 flights of stairs to the main lobby of the hospital, where he was finally apprehended by security. I got the unenviable job of baby-sitting him until the steroids wore off. Fortunately, he was in four point restraints, to prevent a repeat performance.

Normally, this guy had difficulty navigating to the washroom and back, because he was so short of breath.

When I was on it for respiratory problems for a short while, my husband said I'd go upstairs in one mood, and come back down in another....

Not a nice drug at all. Rooney, the author of "Lameness in Horses" says the damage seen these days at post mortem in performace horses is almost entirely due to the use of steroids. It reduces the inflammation, so the horse doesn't know its hurting, and continues to damage the joint until it's beyond repair. Then, of course, the horse has to be euthanized.

Warrior

by Warrior on 21 February 2009 - 04:02

All I have is a pic of the father for now. She looks just like him maybe a tad bit redder in color or lighter.


Hercules

Warrior

by Warrior on 21 February 2009 - 04:02


But this is her as a puppy 6 weeks old


sablepup 



Warrior

by Warrior on 21 February 2009 - 04:02

Heres mom. I hate to keep sending pics and hogging up space this is my last pic. She is huge 88 pounds and 26 1/2 

 I would have to post two seprate peds I have no scanner right now though. The father is out of Castletbrooks Ebonezer and the mom is on there site can't rememebr right off hand but she is a dark black sable.



 






 


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