Canidae vs TOTW - Page 2

I've been feeding TOTW since it came out over a year ago to all my dogs. I weaned my last litter onto the Pacific Stream formula. No problems with coats, or anything else. The adults love the duck formula. I have to keep my older female out of the cat's TOTW as well. It's reasonably priced and I've had better luck with it than I did with the canidae (and I used that for over 4 yrs before the first formula changed, tried it later, still problems). So now I go with either TOTW/raw or just raw.

I will never feed Canidae again.  Too much inconsistency and changes to formula's, then denying they did anything (first 2 changes.  Last one last year they were better on, but too little too late, imo).



Angela

Taste of the Wild is a Diamond product and I have heard nothing but good things from everyone that I know that uses it including myself.  One of the nice things about this product is that it is grain-free, but, protein and fat levels are not as high as some of the other grain-free products out there.
Diamond did have a problem with their corn as Molly mentions above. This was months, if not a year, before the big pet food scare two years ago. I believe that Diamond actually was not affected by the melamine in the wheat from China, most likely because they were in the process of solving their own problems at that point.
Canidae is NOT owned by Diamond.
Canidae became much, much larger over the past 3 or 4 years and could not keep up with production at their rate of growth. Before this became a problem for them they contracted with Diamond to manufacture some, not all, of their food. At this time their formulas did change some, and in my opinion, not for the better. I used to be a big fan of their All Life Stages Formula because it was a great, not perfect, product that was very reasonably priced. Not so anymore!
Canidae does make "grain-free" formulas that they introduced a few months ago.

Molly you are living in a dream world please type in diamond food pet recall into your search engine.  In 2007 Diamond setteled a 3.1 million dollar suit please tell me how many dogs were killed.  In 2005 how many dogs were killed from aflatoxin a recall just for diamond.   How many dogs were killed from this latest problem with Canidae. There was no problem till Diamond started manufacyuring canidae.  This is just the tip of the iceberg with diamond go back into the recalls into the 90's who is front and center. DIAMOND.   And you feed this crap to your dog's??

Yep, I've fed Chicken Soup to all of my dogs and puppies (and boarders) for 5 years now - never a problem.  It has no corn ingredient, so was not affected by any recall or problem.   I have fed my own dogs TOTW also made by Diamond since it came out a year or so ago, and my dogs love it and do great on it.  I split it 1/2 with chicken soup for most of my dogs and puppies, and recommend both foods highly.

ANY dog food manufacturer can have the same problems with grain ingredient.  I believe the Chinese toxins did not affect Diamond but did affect other companies - Iams?  I'm sure Purina has had their own problems - Diamond is certainly not the only one affected by problems with quality control.  It was a one-time thing - one shipment of corn - affecting one batch of dog food from one plant - I trust Diamond more now that they are certainly going to be much more careful with their quality control now, than other companies that will at some point more than likely have the same problems and "learn the hard way".

Meanwhile, yes I feed the no-grain and no-corn/wheat foods that Diamond produces - and my dogs do great on them.

molly

Exact quote from just South Carolina and the federal government:                  Diamond pet foods have recalled 19 brands of their dog food that are believed to have caused the deaths of dozens of dogs. Need I say more it goes on and on with diamond

Diamond is a mass manufacture they will put in the dog food whatever they can get for a lower price, don't lie to yourself, any one working for big corpration (back office, accounting etc.) understands this very well, all the wrong decision are made based on a cost saving and booking big buks. Because of it's size Diamond will always try to cut corners, they can deal with law suite they got big corp lawyers to handle that for them. Money is the main force behind those companies. Now you talk about small private own companies, they can't take that kind of risk because they can't afford it, so the quality control always will be higher. As well small companies don't have money for comercial so the only comercial that they have is suport of their customers, they are less likely to screw up because for them loosing one costumer means loosing next 10 that this costumer will not refer back to them. Now if you big like dimonds this is small number to worry about and PR will fix this, if you small this is a hit that you can't afford to take. It's common sense. A lot of other companies have share intrest in companies like Diamond why? because they can sell to them their waist, and be even more profitable. Look at Martinsk9 formula this company been making food for quite a while, some will argue that their food is garbage, but they do have loyal costumers no advertisment buks and no recalls, why? because they can't screw up if they would they gone, out of it, they can't afford to take that kind of heat.

All I can say is that it is hard to find a good food that won't poison my dogs and that they like. My requirements are grain-free, meat and fish only, no by-products or fillers, no soy, no chemicals. Should be easy, huh? Nope, it's not. Even Orijen had a recall several months ago for fish bones sticking through the packaging. Oops. Supposedly they were changing facilities and that's why it happened. I saw the bones.

That said, I do feed TOTW to one picky eater because he likes it. I know, I made him picky. Snajper, I'm sure Martinsk9 is a good food, but I can't find it. It must have a limited distribution. I wouldn't feed Canidae since they've changed their formula and I've heard of dogs getting the runs on the new formula. Gee, wasn't it easier when we just fed butcher's scraps? But who has a favorite butcher these days.

Sam good example why anything that is comercialy made usually is not too good for your dog lol hahahaha. I don't belive any of the dog food manufacturers they all are here for the money. I would always choose RAW over anything else but kibbles are so easy to handle :) lol I pick small companies because I know how they operate and I stay from big ones like dimond because I know how they operate too well lol I am in the corprate word 5 days a week and I know how close minded (profit minded) they are. I give my dog TOTW every now and than because she likes it as well :) dose not mean I trust them or that I would recomend their food to any one (unless they own a cat, since I don't like cats lol)

I sometimes feed raw too, snajper, but you are right, kibble is just easier to handle.

I caught my young male with his jaws around the head of the neighbor's cat this morning. He looked at me and must have loosened his grip because the cat took off like it was shot from a cannon. Guess he thinks like you about cats, except he'd probably eat them. ;)  Bad for neighbor relations, though.

I don't think the dog food industry is nearly as corrupt as the human food industry.  Look at all the sick and/or dead from the recent peanut fiasco.  Glad I hate peanut butter because I know I haven't consumed any rat feces lately.

I just find it amazing that we worry more about  what we are putting into our dogs.  Diamond products are what are working for me, my dogs and my cats so I'm sticking with it.  Even companies like Timberwolf have had recalls and I'm tired of trying to think up (and find easily) foods that are not harmful to my dogs.