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by Mystere on 10 February 2009 - 21:02
OMG!! I just started trying to input the information from my dog's pedigree and I started getting dizzy!!
Justcuriious,
Noa I am curious. Did you manage it in one sitting, because I got through 6 generations on the sire and had to bag it for a while. I will go back to input the dam's tomorrow. This stuff could make a person comatose. Now, with the info from above, I should have stayed with four generations, instead of this ambitious 6 or 7. Oi!!
Justcuriious,
Noa I am curious. Did you manage it in one sitting, because I got through 6 generations on the sire and had to bag it for a while. I will go back to input the dam's tomorrow. This stuff could make a person comatose. Now, with the info from above, I should have stayed with four generations, instead of this ambitious 6 or 7. Oi!!
by justcurious on 10 February 2009 - 23:02
i did a 7 gen ped on this site and to avoid typos i copied and pasted the individual names from that instead of typing them out myself (i actually made a pdf version of it, clicked on "printer friendly" then "print" and my computer has an pdf option). even with copying & pasting it took awhile, i stressed a bit, even made my kids play in another room - lol (they thought i was nuts) but it's kind of fun to see what % of which dogs popped up. good luck finishing entering the data.
what started me on this was about 6 months ago i read pfaffenberger's book from the early 60's entitled "the new knowledge of dog behaviour" and he talked about COI and it intrigued me. pfaffenberger ran the breeding program for the guide dogs for the blind in cal and was friends with scott who did a lot of work with dogs, genetic and environment. the guide dogs the org. were breeding at the time had a very high COI and they also had a very high success rate; i believe it was far higher than any program today - interesting stuff.
what started me on this was about 6 months ago i read pfaffenberger's book from the early 60's entitled "the new knowledge of dog behaviour" and he talked about COI and it intrigued me. pfaffenberger ran the breeding program for the guide dogs for the blind in cal and was friends with scott who did a lot of work with dogs, genetic and environment. the guide dogs the org. were breeding at the time had a very high COI and they also had a very high success rate; i believe it was far higher than any program today - interesting stuff.
by Mystere on 11 February 2009 - 01:02
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"what started me on this was about 6 months ago i read pfaffenberger's book from the early 60's entitled "the new knowledge of dog behaviour" and he talked about COI and it intrigued me. pfaffenberger ran the breeding program for the guide dogs for the blind in cal and was friends with scott who did a lot of work with dogs, genetic and environment. the guide dogs the org. were breeding at the time had a very high COI and they also had a very high success rate; i believe it was far higher than any program today - interesting stuff."
I also have Pfaffenberger's book, too. His findings have been replicated by some vet school studies and form the basis for a lot of thetemperment/ability tests. Some of the things he found are so right on, that the first questions I ask about parents of potential puppies are because of the things he found. It is really a shame that the book is out of print.
I hit a wrong key while imputting a 7-generation pedigree and POOF! It ALL disappeared!! I could not stand the thought of trying all over, so I did just the 4-generation. It didn't tell me anything I didn't already know, unfortunately. The 7-generation, I suspect, would have been enlightening. It is really too bad that we can't do this with a pedigree program like the one on the PDB or WinSix.
"what started me on this was about 6 months ago i read pfaffenberger's book from the early 60's entitled "the new knowledge of dog behaviour" and he talked about COI and it intrigued me. pfaffenberger ran the breeding program for the guide dogs for the blind in cal and was friends with scott who did a lot of work with dogs, genetic and environment. the guide dogs the org. were breeding at the time had a very high COI and they also had a very high success rate; i believe it was far higher than any program today - interesting stuff."
I also have Pfaffenberger's book, too. His findings have been replicated by some vet school studies and form the basis for a lot of thetemperment/ability tests. Some of the things he found are so right on, that the first questions I ask about parents of potential puppies are because of the things he found. It is really a shame that the book is out of print.
I hit a wrong key while imputting a 7-generation pedigree and POOF! It ALL disappeared!! I could not stand the thought of trying all over, so I did just the 4-generation. It didn't tell me anything I didn't already know, unfortunately. The 7-generation, I suspect, would have been enlightening. It is really too bad that we can't do this with a pedigree program like the one on the PDB or WinSix.
by darylehret on 11 February 2009 - 04:02
Pfaffenberger's book was reprinted in 2001, available at amazon or at workingdogs.com for as little as $7.30
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1929242042/058-9391230-9929203
http://www.workingdogs.com/store/item-1929242042.htm
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1929242042/058-9391230-9929203
http://www.workingdogs.com/store/item-1929242042.htm
by Mystere on 11 February 2009 - 05:02
Thanks! The reprint is in paperback. It looks like any hardbacks are via re-sellers of some type. But, the paperback is cheap enough that I am going to order several to give as gifts.
Thanks again!
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