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by HighDesertGSD on 26 January 2009 - 03:01

Extensive obedience training comes before bite work in SchH.

I believe a pup from SchH parents are more trainable.

You can train only obedience and skip the bite work, then you would have a dog that is just more protective and needs firmer handling than one not from SchH background.

Why won't a pup from SchH not have sound temperament? Most do. Some are just too aggressive but not all or most.


animules

by animules on 26 January 2009 - 03:01

MMy folks love watching Schutzhund.  They were hesitent at first until they had quite a private show put on for the.  It really showed how each action was based on a specific command..  They were thrilled.  And now wade right through all the various dogs in the house. 

by Gustav on 26 January 2009 - 03:01

Isn't it amazing how knowledgable some ignorant people are....ignorance not being meant as malicous, but rather as people who have UNinformed opinions!

Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 26 January 2009 - 03:01

Highdesert you wrote:  Extensive obedience training comes before bite work in SchH

Interesting, I do only imprinting and foundation training in OB with my puppies while doing bitework.  I never do extensive OB before bitework in SchH.  You don't need brakes on a skateboard, until the dog has some "horsepower"  why all the OB?  I like the dog to be settled in to it's bitework before any extensive OB.  Serious obedience starts after good full, hard grips, a nice hold and bark and when I'm ready to start the out. 

You can train only obedience and skip the bite work, then you would have a dog that is just more protective and needs firmer handling than one not from SchH background.

How does skipping the bite work make a dog more protective?  I'm confused could you clarify this statement for me, please? 

Jim
 


by HighDesertGSD on 26 January 2009 - 04:01

How does skipping the bite work make a dog more protective?

Than a dog not from SchH background and without any SchH training.

by HighDesertGSD on 26 January 2009 - 04:01

And I think it is irresponsible to train a dog to bite before obedience training.

jletcher18

by jletcher18 on 26 January 2009 - 05:01

agree with jim, i want my dog over the top, crazy for the bite with a full calm grip and at least starting the bark and hold before i put  pressure on a dog for ob.

clear as mud to me, still dont get how only doing ob makes a dog stronger in bitework whether it come from schutzhund background or not

john

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 26 January 2009 - 05:01

DavC,
Tell him Schutzhund is not about attacking small children and certainly more than just the bite work.
Tell him the dog will be more likely to bite someone else because of the children and the bond that they will have in time.
Tell him that anyone who has an untrained dog of anykind is not being responcible to the dog or anyone else.

Just make sure you know your dog.
Moons.


Baldursmom

by Baldursmom on 26 January 2009 - 05:01

DavC,
Why do you want a schH dog??  Be honest with yourself, is it to enjoy the sport and training your dog or an ego thing?  Maybe your freind is concerned that you won't have the right training ect.?  Teaching a dog to bite can "load a gun without a safety" if you and the dog don't have the right training. 

Just like target shooting or hunting, its a blast when you know what you are doing, or, as our former VP did, a blast in a freinds face if you don't. 


by ramgsd on 26 January 2009 - 14:01

LOL SLAMDUNK. I was thinking the same thing. Someone said       "the dogs are basicly playing tug of war and with only objects made from jute or burlap. One fo the things she was most impressed with was how the dog could be tearing up a sleeve and the helper was able to reach down and touch its face without being bit."

They're talking about a prey trained dog. I personally like a dog that is balanced between prey/civil. I never let the helper pet or praise my dog. The dog doesn't see the helper as a buddy, but as an opponent. When he outs the sleave he engages the man not the sleave. So I wouldn't focus on the "IT A GAME" aspect with my dogs. (if i had them watch a training session)Rather the control over the dog and how I can take him from the fighting mode one moment to controled OB with a command. As well as how the dog will react only to an actual threat.





 


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