New Breed-Pyrenean Shepherd (AKC) - Page 2

 From what I hear, these guys tend to be on the shy side, so popularity will do them no favors.  I prefer the smoothcoated ones, to the Benji lookalikes:

http://www.akc.org/images/breeds/pyrenean_shepherd/photos/lg_pyrenean_shepherd30.jpg

http://www.akc.org/images/breeds/pyrenean_shepherd/photos/lg_pyrenean_shepherd19.jpg

AKC= American Known Collision
AKC=American Known Calamity 
AKC=Americans Knockout Consistency

Made those up myself by the way.  Maybe Leerburg can help me Copyright them..

Give em time, another breed soon to become a Poorly bred, fashionable, lap dog

 "Give em time, another breed soon to become a Poorly bred, fashionable, lap dog"

Yep, get your pedigreed mini Aussis and Benjis right here!

Ive been working on it...
I figure I might as well cash in on it, while designer Fashion Breeds are Hot.

So here it is. 
A Non Shedding Giant Breed.  Cross of a Shitzu and a Great Dane.

I'll call it a Great Sh*t....

You can own yours for only $3000, comes with a years subscription to your favorite Newspaper

Its copyrighted, so dont even think of it..I own the registry. 
Any violators will be dealt with by an Israeli Mossad Hit team.

Isn't the Flat Coated Retriever riddled with health issues, specifically a breed specific malignant cancer which strikes very young dogs, as well as everything else that effects the larger breeds like HD, etc.?  While I doubt this is the fault of AKC, and more to do with a limited gene pool, I've yet to see AKC acceptance end up doing anything positive for any breed.

maybe if you import the dog before it gets AKC over done it could be a nice little sport dog.NO GSLOVER123 THATS NOT CHEWY.That dog in the avitar is one of Scars pups.Chewy is much nicer looking.

Flat Coats have problems Sue, but they have fared better than most, due to their obscurity

Boykins & Chessies are Beset with problems.
Ive run against a few in UKC hunt trials
Ive seen 1 Flat coat work, nice dog really, very much like a Golden in work, temperment, trainability

I like them both, but among Sporting breeds, they have the highest incidents of Hip Dysplasia

I worry about the red and white setter though; they're a working breed. The workingline version of the Irish Red. Just like Jack Russells are to Parson Russells. One works and function takes place over fitting a standard, the other requires strict adherence to the standard, and working ability is regarded as a nice perk.

Now that they're standardized the red and white, I worry they'll wind up become just another pretty, useless dog. I don't personally know any irish reds still used in hunting, and the pictures I've seen of hunting reds... they look nothing like the show reds.

Must the AKC cause every breed to fragment into "working lines" and "showlines"?

(Hey jc.carroll, it's Nova from FP!)

Personally while I agree that many breeds have lost their original function, there are still breeds/areas where it's quite possible to combine a kennel club acceptance with a breed that can still work. As far as I'm concerned, it's dependant on the breeders and what direction they end up going in.
The are still red setters that hunt, at least in these parts :) As a quick background story, scandinavian setters originate from the old british lines and still look like them today - they tend to be smaller with shorter coats than modern american as well as british setters. We do have some imports and people breeding mainly the british line here too, and when you see them next to each other, the difference in style is very obvious. Another difference is that they tend to do well both in the show ring and the hunting field. Don't get me wrong - I do realize that these dogs wouldn't start any chance in f.ex. the AKC ring, but at least under our standard, they are still very much a dual purpose breed. If you go to this champion list and look for dogs with the SUCh (Swedish Show Champion) and SJCh (Swedish Hunting Champion) you can find some examples of dogs that are dual champions today.

Regarding the irish red and white, it may be interesting to note that our red/whites tend to be the "flashiest!". I'm assuming this is because unlike the red/english/gordon, it was recognized more recently and our stock originates from those more modern dogs, while our other setters to back to older hunting lines. So over here, disregarding imports and breeders who breed for a different look, it's the red/white setters that have the most modern look and generally the fewest working titles! Just giving an example of a different perspective, I guess :)

For me, the pyrenean shepherd isn't a new breed. It's been recognized by the FCI for years. They are not a common sight over here, but I see them now and then at shows and they seem like nice little dogs. Not what I'm personally looking for in a dog, but I'm sure they're great for the people who like them.