DDR Males in the UK - Page 2

I am not sure if the old true DDR lines still exist in the uk since the wall came down my understanding is that the working dogs in germany are a mixture of both east ands west and they are predominatly west

I am involved in sch sport and cannot think of a single pure DDR dog or bitch around at the moment

Reason There are some around (old true DDR lines). You have to remember that people have frozen semen and from that you can go right back to the old ddr lines if you have the right lines to breed with. This is fact, i have dogs from the frozen semen of real ddr dogs. The biggest problem is not many people know the DDr bloodlines so information given is not alway true.

I dont think there is any pure DDR dog about in the UK at least I never heard of it. I have just spoken to Frank Schawe who has been a very good friend of mine for many years and owns the kennels "vom Felsenschloss" which is actually the only one who keeps the Line13A up , though he works together with the kennels "vom Parchimer Land" . the line 13A was a very popular line in the DDR, well known for dark sable dogs with strong heads and superb working capability. Dogs from this line are bred over "Don Haus Iris" , "Alf Kornersee" "Muchta Schwarzhorn" or "Eddi Felsenschloss". Frank says its not easy to keep this line up and pure. If you have progeny of one of these dogs (only over the male side) you have a pure DDR dog.
If you mate any of the female progeny to some other boodline its not a 13A dog anymore. If you you use any male progeny of  the line to mate a bitch of a different line its gonna be recognised as a DDR dog from 13A.Hope that makes some sense to you?
BTW , there is a litter underway from this line.
There is still another line about called 11E, but I do not know much about it.
All the best
Ulf

K9ulf 
You should go back and talk to Frank. All that is left in Germany is 13a dogs or combinations of that line.You misunderstood him. There are no males left in Germany today that are from 11E or any of the 11 lines. The only way to have males from these lines is with frozen semen and that is if it exists. In Germany the sv does not allow frozen semen breeding

Johnsk9

 

Please tell us the names of these pure bred DDR in the UK i am involved in the sch sport so might be interested to now exactly who they are as i am sure K9ulf would be and a few others

Reason
   I live in the usa i do not know the availability of the East German Blood in the UK. Just before the falling of the Berlin wall dogs from the ddr were being brought into the USA. Today we have more East German bloodlines then anywhere. If your desire is for a top competition dog I would not be looking for a pure ddr dog. The West German working lines have the top drives to compete Czech dogs are good to. The east west mix may work also. Now you can compete with the ddr but the majority will be a lower level dogs. The DDR used the dogs for military , police and protection work not sport. There are people who will tell you other wise.

Johnsk9

 

From the title of the thread it is fair to assume you are in the UK and then when you say you have DDR lines it is fair to ask which, i am fully familiar with the lines and the blending of them for sport, and would still be interested to which dogs you have, i have a few freinds in the US who also wish to konw

Reason i breed to save as much of the old bloodlines . The bloodline i have are The 5a - 12 and the 11 a-b-c-d-e
i do not use any of the reaming bloodlines that now have consumed the entire ddr gene pool and that is the 13a  from Gero vom Haus Kaiser foward