Older pup with uncontrolled prey drive! help! - Page 2

The problem is probaby the type of collar you are using and/ or your experience in giving well timed firm corrections.  FUR SAVERS are good for casual walks or for ring training but offer very little if any correction. A properly fitted chain collar/ training collar will allow you to correct the dog without choking her. Chains are sometimes called "choke collars" but this is due to incorrect use. The idea is to quickly pop and release the chain along with a firm "no/ nein" so that the dog learns to cease that activity. With the fur saver the links blind together and it is difficult to do a proper pop and release correction; instead they just squeeze her neck. Try a good HS chain collar properly fitted with with just enough slack to go over the dogs head and a couple inches of extra chain when on your dog. If you need instruction on how to really use the chain and give good corrections an hour with a professional trainer would be worthwhile. It is good to introduce the collar to the dog and instruct the owner at the same time! If the dog does not respond to the chain/training collar with your best corrections then a prong collar would be the next step. Most dogs will respond well to either collar but not all/ many owners can use the chain correctly. Switching to a prong is often because it takes less effort to correct and the corrections are much more efficient. A trainer could show you how to position, size, and use the prong collar too. A couple of well timed good corrections (not nagging tugs) with either a chain or a prong collar might greatly improve her obedience and will give you the ability to show her who is in charge.  E collar training is another option but try the chain/choke collar first!

not to alarm you champion .i had a friend that had a pup .black gsd. at ten weeks old i saw her dog had extreme prey drive ,along with aggression issuse .i told her to get the dog to a trainrer.she did not .at four months the dog had niped he a few times .again i told her take the dog to a good trainer ,not petco or the likes .she did the petco thing.at year old the dog was extremly aggressive to children and everyone . i told her to go to a real trainer .she picked what i call a phoo phoo trainer.after watching afew of thier training sessions, i told her she needed a differant kind of trainer.well she did take the dog to a real trainer when the dog was about two ,and trained for a year .the dog seemed better.still not to be trusted sadly at five years old she had to put her much loved dog to sleep as it was unpredictable.it tryed to bite her and get her good so please dont wait.

Your pup needs hard correction. For any pup with that kind of drive, forget the myth that correction before 1 year old will do any thing to it...least of all ., you let it go and now look what you have

Mahon has Bossie and at 4 months old she no longer touches the vaccum cleaner, or a chicken running righ under her nose, or leaves or anything that is not acceptable, she geblauts, platz, goes to kennel on command and  no bark is being the hardest now...

Sitz is great and  HIER      now just automatic..   Dinasaur girl won't or will not be gentle on tug or rag work and you could NOT take

it out of her if you hit her with a metal bat 60 time in an hour....  discipline and correction done correctly will not take drive out of a pup,,,,,,,,,,mark my words and Mahons words .  I can prove it and so can he and so can many other proper trainers.

Not talking about shy, undriven, sulkey , whimpy gsds.   Back to the   PACK LEADER   THREAD.....

SAME CYNERIO.

DONT NEED ANY COLLAR EXCEPT THE FUR SAVER THAT FITS SNUGGLY NOT LOOSLY..TOO MANY PEOPLE DONT KNOW HOW TO FIT A COLLAR , EITHER...THE FIT IS HALF THE BATTLE TO CORRECTLY,IN AN EXACT SPLIT SECOND ,YOU GIVE THE CORRECTION...A COLLAR THAT IS TOO LOOSE , WILL NOT EFFECTIVELY GIVE THE PROPER NEEDED IMMEDIATE STRIKE TO INSURE THAT PUP KNOWS ....OOPS!  DONT WANT THAT AGAIN...THAT HURT..!!!

At 8 months I would consider taking her and joining a good club. Let her be herself and get some good focus on her.

I wouldn't take her for walks if she has that much energy. I would take her to an enclosed area and bring the kong. Let her be free and herself.

Teach her what to do and eventually she will learn how to act on the leash when she is good and tired. Not when you are good and tired with her.  A tired dog is a happy dog.

Good luck she sounds great.

I would put that pup on a prong, a. few reasons, One is, if pulls enough over time you can damage the vocal cords, I get tired of blisters, If you are statiing she has pulled you off your feet (I know suprise) you can land wrong and break something, OR another suprise, drop the leash and then have to play catch me if you can, as fun as this maybe, in the wrong location could be dangerous.

My pup is the same way when it comes to a windy day it seems like i have to say Aus the whole walk because he sees leaves blow and picks them up lol. I can see already my dog as he gets older is going to be a hard SOB. He used to jump when people came over and snap in their face while they bent over to pet him. A quick knee to the chest when he jumped solved the jumping in a couple of days. And snapping has decreased but i think because he understands what i like and done like as far as greeting people goes. The reason i say he is going to be hard dog when he gets older is because i have done a hard correction on him (he is 7 months) and he still is stubborn enough to keep doing it!! Im waiting to put a prong on him until he is a year but i have also contemplated that he really needs ones this young just because he is so dominant and stubborn. I would deff. as the SchH inst. to help you out depending on how good he is chance are he has worked OB on harder dogs than yours. BTW mine is a working line. Good luck.