What about these ingredients? - Page 2

What is the crude analysis?

Don't like corn as second ingredient.

Don't like meat meal, prefer chicken meal

Crude Protein Min.  26.0%

Frude Fat Min.          18.0%

Crude Fiber Min.     3.75%

Moisture Max           12.0%

Omega 6                  3.0%

Omega 3                    .5%

Glucosamine Hydrochloride  Min  425 mg/kg

Chondroitin Sulfate            Min  125 mg/kg

Hi Vickie, Here is some info on bloat.  Notice what I highlighted in blue.  THis was a large study done in 2004 and links bloat to dog food with fat as one of the first four ingredients.  There were other factors found but this was a big one.  I can print the whole study if you like.

Just FYI,

Jim

ABSTRACT - Nutrient Intake and Bloat

Malathi Raghavan, DVM, MS; Lawrence T. Glickman, VMD, DrPH; Nita W. Glickman, MS, MPH; Diana B. Schellenberg*, MS.

Dietary risk factors for gastric dilatation-volvulus (GDV) in dogs were identified using a nested case-control study. Of 1991 dogs from 11 large- and giant-breeds in a previous prospective study of GDV, 106 dogs that developed GDV were selected as cases while 212 remaining dogs were randomly selected as controls. A complete profile of nutrient intake was constructed for each dog based on owner-reported information, published references and nutrient databases. Potential risk factors were examined for a significant (p<0.05) relationship with GDV risk using unconditional logistic regression.

The study confirmed previous reports of increased risks of GDV associated with increasing age, having a first-degree relative with GDV, and having a raised food bowl.

New significant findings included a 2.7-fold (or 170%) increased risk of GDV in dogs that consumed dry foods containing fat among the first four ingredients.

The risk of GDV was increased 4.2-fold (or 320%) in dogs that consumed dry foods containing citric acid that were also moistened prior to feeding by owners.

Dry foods containing a rendered meat meal with bone among the first four ingredients significantly decreased GDV risk by 53.0%.

Approximately 30% of all cases of GDV in this study could be attributed to consumption of dry foods containing fat among their first four ingredients, while 32% could be attributed to consumption of owner-moistened dry foods that also contained citric acid. These findings can be used by owners to reduce their dogs' risk of GDV.

I just double checked my bag of Royal Canin GS-24 and I don't see corn listed in the ingredients.

Val

"THis was a large study done in 2004 and links bloat to dog food with fat as one of the first four ingredients. "

THis is a rather non-specific statement.

Look at "chicken meal" for instance. It itself has a rather high percentage of fat.

A food that has a large amount of "chicken meal" can have a rather high fat content as well.

I prefer a statement with reference to the total crude fat.

Total fat may be important but only one factor to bloat, I tend to think.

Ingrendients seem a'ight but of course Pedigree Dog Food is far better

It may be the best for those that know nothing about nutrition........

Pedigree Dog Food is far better

You're kidding, right? The only thing I'd use that stuff for is baiting traps. The aritificial colors and corn won't  make a difference because the rats are going to die anyway. I could use it to start the compost barrel going I guess, but the stuff smells so bad I'd have to move the barrel farther away from the house. Eukanuba and alfalfa meal works better. Ha ha ha.

What on earth would cause someone to believe that pretty colored kibble is good for their dog?

SS

Val,

Sorry, I thought Royal Canin had corn in it......my bad!

Vickie

www.PowerHausKennels.com

Vickie I think their Sensible Choice product had corn, which they are discontinuing to concentrat more on the Breed Specific blends.

Val