Fence Fighting! - Page 2

Yes, I can turn her loose with them and she is ok, it is just in that kennel!!  I have her kennel seperate from everyone elses, and I am considering fencing off the area where everyone else's kennels are just for the simple fact that she runs to their kennels to do it. 

I will definately start doing more obedience with her, to help stimulate her, I have been thinking of doing some trails with the dogs too.

Where I live there are not too many places to train for the sport, so I am limited.  I was doing a lot of training with her before, but I had to drive 2 hours one way to do that, and recently with the gas prices so high I had to stop, and I noticed she is worse since I stopped.  

Thanks 

I don't think that you should stop letting her run with the others under your presence, but think that you should do more with her one-on-one.  When you let her out, the last thing you want her  to do is immediately run to the other kennels and pay no attention to you.  When you let her out of the kennel, she should be focused on you and excited to go do something with you. 

Do you do very little with the dogs and let them run by themselves?  If this is the case, she is going to bond to them and not you.  Letting them run together is not the biggest problem in the world if you do one-on-one with each and they bond to you.  This dog should be eager to have you come to her kennel, not because she gets to come out, but that there may be the possibility of doing something she enjoys with you. 

This is the problem with owning multiple dogs.  I hear too many people that want to get a second dog because Rover needs a friend.  I always thought that Rover was "man's best friend"   and if his best friend doesn't have the time to fullfill one dog, how can he fullfill the needs of two?  I understand that people today are busy as hell.  Most people work a full time job and it becomes difficult to give each dog your full attention.  Hell, with the time change last night, I'm sure most people leave for work when it is dark and return home in the dark.  Then you gotta shovel feces, cook dinner, give the kids a bath,  pay some bills, drink a 12 pack, put the kids to bed and watch the presidential debate. 

PLEASE,

NO MORE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I promise to be good.......

I do let them run a lot together but I also do things with them seperately, if I stay out in the front yard she is glued to my hip, but if I go out back she is heading straight for the kennels, and she knows I don't approve because if I tell her no, she immediately leaves it alone.  But if I should turn my back she is at it again, and she watches me to see if I'm watching her.  I try to do a lot with her one on one because she is so energetic, but I know I don't do enough obedience with her.  I think it is because she listens pretty good, and I don't feel like she needs it.  I know that is wrong now that I hear myself saying it! LOL     

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Ding Dong People:     Being the leader of your dogs is old as Methuzala, How do you think the Mother dog stops fighting in her pack..She disciplines them   VERY HARSHLY..  DOESNT MATTER , how many dogs you have., start from day one being the boss....BOSS,"not the point your finger and yell no." dog owner. 

After you punish or discipline your dog or pup for wrong behaviour,  about a wait time of 30 minutes, he has thought about it for that long, show  him your love and play with the same dog you just punished.

Then in a few weeks you can run 10 dogs all together, with you the pack leader , and you stand for no growling, no fighting, no baring teeth, no fence running, and no starting a fight..You end the fignt.

Steve,

I would watch your video if I could, but unfortunately I have dial-up!!  Ugh!  I do remove her and punish the situation, I claim the kennel and when she tries to go towards it, I claim it again, and if she beats me to it, I remove her, if I'm down there and see her coming I point at her tell her "NO", she stops dead in her tracks and sits there and stares just waiting for me to not catch her.  I don't believe in locking her up and forgetting about it, I need to help her get through this. 

Steve,

I would watch your video if I could, but unfortunately I have dial-up!!  Ugh! 

Gsd4fun:    Sorry you have dial up   go to the local library one day and watch the videos and read the pages.

   I do remove her and punish the situation, I claim the kennel and when she tries to go towards it, I claim it again,

GSD4fun:  WOOH:  what are you claining.:    No your not claiming anything, but rewarding the dog that is dominating YOU>

Your dog is laughing at you. She is playing a game at this point.

and if she beats me to it, I remove her, if I'm down there and see her coming I point at her tell her "NO",

 Gsd4fun: Yelling No and pointing to her is not punishment for her behaviour.

she stops dead in her tracks and sits there and stares just waiting for me to not catch her.

Gsd4fun:  That stare is a dare..You are not the BOSS or Pack Leader: Now go get a broom stick , without the broom on end and proceed to use it on her when she goes back to the fence..If it takes three times , then three time YOU use the broom handle on her. Yelling no is like lighting a bunch of fire crackers and letting them go pop  , pop, pop ..Does just about that much good. You do not have your dogs attention and she does not consider you the dominant..She is dominating you.  

When you have allowed this bad behaviour to exist you trained it into her., by letting it begin. She didn't train herself, you are responsible for every living breath and learning trait your dog LEARNS.   YOU ALLOWED IT.

  I don't believe in locking her up and forgetting about it, I need to help her get through this. 

Gsd4fun: No , it is not HER that needs help getting thu this , it is YOU and needs the help..GOOD LUCK...

After you get her attention , then about an hour later take her with you and do some ball or fun things..praising her for attention on YOU>>>>>she has to learn it is YOU.  YOU feed her...start feeding her on the floor out of your hands for about  30 days...watch what HAPPENS>>>

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Some dogs do stuff like this because they don't get enough exercise, some dogs do it because the leader isn't acting like one. My current young male was being a young male butthead this afternoon with another dog. I stepped in, grabbed him by the scruff on both sides of his neck, pulled him off his feet, shook him sideways and told him no. He wouldn't look at me, which is good. I left him alone - they seem to get embarrassed about corrections for a while - then after the football game was over, I fed him and played with him. He's a much chastened boy tonight and his behavior is much better.

You decide what to accept from your dog. Your female is playing with you and has you figured out so she can get her way. You have to correct them for behavior you don't want.  Extinction doesn't work with dogs: you can't ignore behavior you don't like and hope it goes away. Behavior like this is self-reinforcing; she's getting something out of it and won't stop on her own. I don't know what claiming a kennel looks like, but if it doesn't stop the bad behavior it didn't work. You will probably have to get physical with this one. Correct each time she does what you don't want, increasing the correction level until she gets the message. Once she gets the message, she won't look at you. She'll want to hide for a while. Let her. When you correct, you should be calm and serious, not angry or nervous. Calm and serious means leadership.

Good luck with her.