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by Pat Relton on 01 October 2008 - 09:10
and link that website to KNPV and tell them to link yours back from theres and that is how we also can see
by Doug Wendling on 01 October 2008 - 12:10
This is NOT going to happen, in any official (from the KNPV) capacity.
Doug

by Kreiger on 01 October 2008 - 12:10
I spoke to Linda at Von Asgard Kennels and I asked her how legit this whole ordeal really was..She replied and said that it was real and that on Dec.14-20 there will be some Official from KNPV at her place going more into depth about the whole thing.
If this happens to be a crock of &^%$ then Oh Well!! If it is true than that will be awesome...
One thing I know for sure is that as long as we been participating in Schutzhund here in the U.S. and breeding these dogs with all this PREY instilled in them and hardly any fight or aggression in them,we(those who would like to do KNPV)will have to re-examine our dogs and ask our self if our dogs can truly handle the pressure.I must say that I have lost a lot of respect for Schutzhund.I feel that it has become a sport instead of an evaluation or a test,and I also feel that the dogs have been altered to fit the need of the handler in order to win ,and that is fine but for those of us who want something more real that calls for the real genetic makeup of the dog to really come out on or off of the field, then we must take a closer look at the dogs ...
by Christopher Smith on 01 October 2008 - 20:10
Kreiger, although I have been to KNPV trials, know the rules and have had conversations with some of the top trainers in the sport I have a couple of things that alway leave me scratching my head. Maybe you can help me out with these questions.
If KNPV is not a sport why are there points?
If KNPV is so much harder than schutzhund, why is it that tens of dogs every year get perfect scores? I have never seen a schutzhund dog get a perfect score with my own eyes.
by Pat Relton on 01 October 2008 - 22:10
wow
that is interesting
by Doug Wendling on 01 October 2008 - 22:10
"there will be some Official from KNPV at her place going more into depth about the whole thing."
The above statement is a lot different then offering official KNPV titles. Anyone can and many people have had KNPV judges, trainers and decoys over here for seminars. But, having official KNPV trials over here is not going to happen. I wish it was possible too, but the only way to title in a dog in KNPV, is be a member or have someone trial the dog for you, and do it in Holland and only Holland.
Doug

by Mystere on 01 October 2008 - 23:10
Deja vu all over again. AGAIN, KNPV is "coming to American." This sounds like yet another crock!! But, I am willing to wait and see. The fact that a specific kennel is involved, of course, raises red flags for me!!
by Get A Real Dog on 02 October 2008 - 00:10
This is BS. Ain't gonna happen.
This is either a ploy from the people putting on the seminar or they are getting duped by whoever is coming over from Holland.
I have met two "expert" KNPV trainers from Holland. Both of them were as shady as they come. Screwed several people out of alot of money.
by Pat Relton on 02 October 2008 - 15:10
Bureau of KNPV
Liendertseweg 108
3815 BJ Amersfoort
Netherlands
PHONE: (033) 479-0320
FAX: (033) 479-0321
E-MAIL: bureau-knpv@tref.nl
WEB SITE: http://www.knpv.nl
The office for the knpv is only open from 9 AM to 1 PM 5 days a week.
Can someone who speaks Dutsch please call and ask so we can get an answer twth allrready?
by Doug Wendling on 02 October 2008 - 16:10
The KNPV offices knows about this already and they have said anything advertised as being official KNPV titles, clubs, events in anyway is NOT allowed. That does not mean someone from the KNPV can't come over here and give a seminar, or put on a fun trial based on their rules, etc. many have and many will continue to do that......... KNPV "officially" will not have anything in the US. I have talked to some of my friends in Holland about this and they talked to the KNPV Office a few days ago to find out what was going on, because they knew this was not possible and it is NOT.............
Doug
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