
This is a placeholder text
Group text

by aristianM on 28 August 2008 - 08:08
Well if raw meat stays inside the dog for soo long doesnt de bunk the theory that.'' ecoli and bacteria do not get the chance to settle down becuase raw meat is digested very quicky." Im still worried about my dog getting sick from ecoli. :( Anyway she is a healthy 15 month old femlae gsd. Her activity level is very high. So guys should i worry about my dog getting ecoli? The slaughter houses here are not like the ones in your country. :(

by aristianM on 28 August 2008 - 13:08
Ok i would like to ask you some question and i will be very grateful if you answer them.
In Pakistan:
1.) Slaughter houses here are not checked by food authorities very often. We do not have proper slaughter houses that are air conditioned and hygenic. The slaughter houses here are un hygenic. One has to be very careful with human grade meat to. Our slaughter houses are considered unclean when compared to yours.
2.) A lot of slaughter houses have been shutdown. They were slaughtering diseased and very young cows.
3.) the meat is slaughtered and sent to meat shops. Now i dont know where the meat shops get their meat supply from but i still go the best shop in town and get human grade meat for me dog and myself.
4.) there is one plus point. The population icluding shepherds are very very poor. They cant buy cow food(grains) for their cows and as a result the cows eat grass and hay. They are not fed in feed lots and graze on grass all day.
Considering all the points mentioned above would you give your dogs a raw diet? I am worried about my female getting ecoli or other ailments. I love her too much and if something happens to her because of me, i will never forgive myself. so should i worry about her getting bacteria? Anyway i also wanted some info on raw meaty bones. My female is a 15 month old, big girl and weighs 75 pounds? Should i give her raw cow necks instead of chicken necks?

by justcurious on 28 August 2008 - 18:08
In the US there is a trend to move away from feed-lot cattle to grass-fed and we actually pay more for grass-fed meats here. It's felt by some to be healthier lower in fat and higher in nutrients. SO this, IMO, is actually a plus.
Now the unhygenic conditions is a problem but you can marinate the meat in whey which you can get by straining yogurt or kefir through a few layers of cheese cloth (or you can just use whole yogurt or kefir either is fine but if you strain it you get great cheese and you and the dogs will loves this too:) Marinate between 12 & 36 hrs; and if you can find it "EM" - effecive microbes. This is a great addition to any ones diet and has many applications.
Both of these are "probiotics" and will fight off any bad bacteria that might have gotten onto the meat due to poor handling. But the meat itself, due to the grass-fed diet & lifestyle that it requires (for example lots of sunshine and regular exercise), will most likely be in far better condition the feed-lot meat. But you must remember dog have amazing digestive tracts with far stronger acid than human, the dog has to be severely weakened or sick already to stuffer from bacterial infection. But it does not hurt to take precautions and it will put far less burden on the dog as well as increase overall vitality.
jmo & hth,
Susan

by aristianM on 29 August 2008 - 07:08
Thanks Susan. I will definately make and add whey to the meat.
by malshep on 29 August 2008 - 11:08

by justcurious on 29 August 2008 - 17:08
According to Dr Lonsdale supplements are not necessary when feeding a raw meaty bone+ diet. But I have read that blood tests results of dogs on a raw diet are a bit different then kibble fed dogs. I ran a quick search to see if I could find where I read it and found this:
While a more detailed analysis has yet to be completed, these results indicate that dogs fed raw meats (natural carnivores) have higher red blood cell and blood urea nitrogen levels than dogs fed cereal-based food (obligate omnivores).
http://www.antechdiagnostics.com/clients/antechNews/2003/jun03_02.htm
which I found via this site http://www.itsfortheanimals.com/BLOOD-TEST-EXPLAINED.HTM
hth,
Susan
Contact information Disclaimer Privacy Statement Copyright Information Terms of Service Cookie policy ↑ Back to top