Stop Heart Stick Euthanasia in Michigan - Sign Petition - Page 2

Brent, and All,

Again, when I have done the heart sticks it was in a vet clinic, because nothing else was working.  One was in a Rottie and one was in a lab.

Both dogs were sedated, one had a catheter in.

I have seen it done with cats, alot.  Cats, old ones, are especially hard to find a vein on in the first place, let alone one that in their upper teens, and the owners needed to bring them in weeks prior to when they did. 

I would suggest asking your vet about heart sticks.

Again, I don't know this particualar situation.  I wasn't there.  I have heard dogs scream. 

Beuthanasia is 1 cc per 10lbs.  We intentionally over dose, so that there, most of the time, isn't a problem.  The Rottie that I mentioned?  We started with 10 ccs, she weighed 70lbs.  We ended up having to use another 5CCs.  For her, it was kinder and faster to do the heart stick.

The lab?  I was doing it by myself.  There was no other choice, the dog was suffering severely, the vet could not make it in to the clinic, and I couldn't pick him up to move him---plus a ride at midnight to another clinic, would have hurt worse for him, so, I did him(BTW, We were at the clinic, not at home or somewhere else.)

It is next to impossible to put in an IV catheter alone, let alone do a euthanasia.

So, I'll tell you what, until you have been put into the situation, don't talk.  And don't condemn that which you don't know or don't understand.

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Has anyone ever considered carbon monoxide?   It's odorless, painless, and it work's.  It's non-threatening and can be done without so much fear placed on the animal, and I'm sure it's cheap for those who concern themselve's with the money.  

Hell I almost killed myself once by accident and I didn't feel anything but high and dizzy.  I made it out of the garage in a nick of time or I wouldn't be here now.   

You know when I was young, I remember the dog pound would put dog's in a chamber, and pump out the air,  a small chamber.   

Where do these people come from?   How does their brain work?

Trainer I understand what your saying, I shouldn't judge anyone who's doing what they think is best.  Every situation is different.    I'm not bothered by a noise or a little twitching, the sight of it isn't what I take exception to.   It's the length of time.

A quick pain is better than a long drawn out nightmare for me.

I've made my feeling's known many time's about animal's suffering.  

I'll leave it at that.

Brent.

Graphic warning!

http://www.wsmv.com/video/14496229/index.html

Dr. Baber's comments and justification were reprehensible.  "There's a difference between shelter medicine and veterinary medicine?"  "It ain't pretty?"

I beg to differ. There's a big difference.  Humanity being one.

Oh God I can't watch all of that. Perhaps before getting a pet everyone should have to see this. Anyone breeding a dog or cat deffinatly should!

Well I did watch the whole thing and it remind's me of those chamber's only worst.  

If I had that job I would need therapy after a while.   I have put animal's down and felt it for day's, I can't imagine having to do that everyday.  

I would have to come up with a better way.  Or I couldn't do it.

Yeah everyone should watch and maybe some would think twice.

It's Friday, I'm gonna have a drink and a smoke and let this go now.

He had a better way.  That was almost dictated in his job description.  He couldn't fit it into his "budget" on what he was paid. 

 eta:  Don't even get me started on that.

     During my days as a veterinary nurse I have seen this done, but there was always a very good reason for it and the animal was usually under anesthetic. Done correctly this is a very quick way to euthanaze an animal it should die instantly. If this poor animal died such a long and painful death it was most likely injected into the lung.

Every animal that is put to sleep needs someone to hold and reasure it, to give it comfort at the end ( whenever possible), Yes even those at Animal Shelters.

Even today yes, 10 years after retirement I still feel emotional over the Euthanasias that I have done or assisted with.

If you gave them some measure of comfort you were more help than hinderance.  You shouldn't let it trouble your mind now.  What if it had been a person that didn't care with them?  You cared.  They knew.  Those that abandoned them should have the troubled minds.  Those that stayed with them (you) shouldn't.

I have worked for Vets. off and on all my life, I have assisted in my fair share of euthanasia's, I have never seen one take as long as what some of you are saying.  The animal is gone before the needle leaves the leg, when we have to use the heart stick, none of us girls like to watch it, I think it is the whole thing of poking the needle in the chest,  we just hug the pet,talk to it  and close are eyes, and just hold them until they go limp. It never takes that long.  The tech. will only do Euthanasia's when a line is in already, The Doctors usually do all that stuff.  We don't sedate first and never have a problem. And you have to think most of the pets that you are putting to sleep are in bad shape and it is the best thing for them, then the situation that they are in.  Nobody like to put animals to sleep it is heartbreaking to do it, but if done right the animal just goes to sleep, we have clients that are with us when we do it and we explain to them what is going to happen before we start anything, the girls hold the pet and the owner is at the pets head talking to them, and if the owners don't stay and it is just the Doctors and us we hold the pet and talk to them the entire time. They know that they are loved till the end.  And I am not saying that all of them go great and as planed but sometimes things happen and you just work through them.  But the pets feelings come first. I have never worked at a shelter so I can not talk about what goes on there.