Here it seems every couple of months the price of Canidae goes up... and I keep thinking about switching again but never do.  I have dogs of all ages and purposes so I like the convenience of one dog food for them all.  The only nice thing I read about the switch is they claim less stool!  I do not like empty corn-based products, nor can I afford dog food more expensive than Canidae (and still feed myself well), so I guess I'll be off to researching other products again.

I fed Diamond for years, before their problems.  Once they got their plant back in order, I switched back to it.

I have played with Canidae over the last few years, but wasn't overly impressed with results.

Taste of the Wild is make/packaged by Diamond.  I love it.

Also, as a matter of record, so is Chicken Lover's Soup

Canidae is terrible. Several breeders and dog owners as well as myself have had our dogs on canidae in the past. We all ended up with the same results; Poor coat, tremendous weight loss and stools were like pudding. The weight loss seemed to be our biggest concern. It seemed like no matter how much they ate they still lost weight. I suggest staying away from canidae.

FYI,

Recall -- Firm Press Release

FDA posts press releases and other notices of recalls and market withdrawals from the firms involved as a service to consumers, the media, and other interested parties. FDA does not endorse either the product or the company.

Diamond Pet Food Withdraws Products in Response to American Nutrition Inc. Pet Food Recall

Contact:
Diamond Pet Food Media Hotline
(888) 207-6208

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE -- Meta, MO -- April 26, 2007 -- Because of the canned pet food recall initiated today by American Nutrition Inc., Diamond Pet Foods has announced it is withdrawing a limited number of canned products manufactured by American Nutrition. This action is limited to three specific canned products: Diamond Lamb & Rice Formula for Dogs 13 oz. cans, Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover's Soul Kitten Formula 5.5 oz. cans, and Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover's Soul Puppy Formula 13 oz. cans.

Diamond Pet Foods is taking this voluntary action after learning the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) confirmed rice protein concentrate used by American Nutrition contained melamine, a substance not approved for use in food.

No other Diamond brand or Chicken Soup brand canned or dry pet food formulas are affected by the American Nutrition recall.

Diamond Pet Foods has not received any indication of quality or safety issues, including pet illness, with the three withdrawn products. However, because American Nutrition informed the company that these three specific products may include rice protein concentrate, Diamond Pet Foods felt this action was necessary for the protection of its customers and their pets.

It should be noted that the products being withdrawn were not formulated or labeled to contain rice protein concentrate. While the FDA is investigating this, current information indicates this error is a result of a manufacturing deviation by American Nutrition.

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Howdy,

I too liked the convinience of feeding kibble. Problem with kibble is simple, they have to produce large amounts, that will be stored and may allready be severell month old before they even hit the shelve. Looking at all these ingridients listed - it makes my stomach turn ! One lttle mistake in the producing process can have an tremendous effect, and most of the time not a good one.

Have you ever seen a wolf or a fox laying in a cornfield mounching down corn, barely ?

After alot of thinking, I switch my dogs to completly raw. In my opinion the best decision I made. I did find a company that delivers the meat frozen to my doorstep. It is convieniently packed in portions of 0,5kg. For a grown adoult just the right size. Amazingly the stool in the beginning was a little loose & slimy, but that was gone within days. Furthermore the stool itself was a lot less then with kibble. They even recommend to feed more meat when that happens. After now about 3 month, I know I will not switch back. The teeth became alot whiter, my dogs are energetic and now can hardly wait too get their food ! To feed raw is the most natural thing you can do.

Regards Ulli Dresbach

As for Canidae now being manufactured by Diamond here is a letter someone got when they asked Canidae this question.

Read on another site that Canidae was switching to Diamond to make their dry food. I e-mailed to confirm this and here is the response I received:

Due to overwhelming customer support and increased demand on our products, we have been faced with unique production capacity challenges. Our growing customer support and demand has pushed for increased capacity, therefore we have outsourced additional production from Diamond Pet Foods. Our customers demand and deserve no less than the highest quality safe ingredients, as well as state of the art consistent manufacturing. Outsourcing additional production from Diamond comes not without first carefully instating and accepting only the strictest testing protocols, as well as mandating stringent operating procedures to ensure the highest quality products possible at every level of production. We are very happy with this relationship and the high quality formulations we are able to bring to you.

Expect Excellence!
Sincerely,
Team Canidae

If you are interested, here is the link where I found this information.

www.ourdogsonline.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/184859/gonew/1/Canidae_being_made_by_Diamond#UNREAD 

<<Have you ever seen a wolf or a fox laying in a cornfield mounching down corn, barely ?>>

Sorry, just had to jump in here to say that actually, red foxes do eat corn.  Of course they eat meat, but a part of their diet is berries, grasses, and grains.  Yes, they'll eat corn even when they also eat the mice in the cornfield.

Also, wolves, wild dogs, coyotes, etc...will rip out intestines and stomach and eat that first....guess what is in there?  Grain and grass products...

We have Corn fields around here, wheat and berries grow here too...  I only see the foxes breaking in to get my rabbits and chickens more than do I see them eating field mice or corn.

What does this have to do with the changing of Canidae's formula? 

Howdy,

You have a point right - they will rip open the stomach area, because its is the easiest way to get to the meat, not because they are going for the intestine (stomach & content). They do not eat the stomach with its content, they eat the outside. And yes, there is parts of the contents inside the stomach sticking to it. Only about 5% of their prey will be non-meat. It is also reported that they eat the whole stomach, but only in times when there is no other foodsource avaible. For the mouse remark - how much corn will be in a tiny mouse ?

Arakis, I apologize - it just got me when I read the ingredience list you put up - it reads like a chemistry book ! That was the reason why I chipped in, again I am sorry, I should not have.

Regards Ulli

On a side note, how convinient for the petfood industry to keep the "stomach content eating Wolf " story up - it sure helps them sell their crap.