How to tell if your GSD has personal - Page 2

I like your pic of her on the avitar  ....lol

I can honestly say that I have just skimed though what I have read, it just sounds like too much drama 
for me or for that matter, any dog in this universe, that being said, this is not directed at you, BUT<<<><>>>

First off---People SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not ALL People, but some really do, believe it or not (Oh what a surprise!)

Theo Von Ryan was returned to me cause the lady & her hubby were getting a divorce.

He came back to me at 7 months old & I was going to rehome him, as I was taking pictures of

 him, I noticed how he caught my eye, he was so handsome, I was going to keep his sister but

 I rehomed her and kept Theo.

I did not notice untill I had him for about 2 weeks that he was scared to DEATH of men.

   Everytime my husband stood up from his chair, Theo ran behind a chair and cowered, he
  was trembling, and I couldn't believe how afraid he was.

   That made me sick to my stomach.

  I brought Theo out & about, around everyone and all sorts of people & dogs, I told people I
  met to give treats to Theo especially the guys & in no time Theo was very confident and liked
  everyone, I got Theo his Canine Good Citizen, and Therapy Dog International certificates.

   I also tried bitework with Theo, but when the guy tried to entice Theo to play and chase after the
   piece of burlap, Theo just looked at the guy, and then laid down & looked away.

    The decoy guy said Theo just wasn't interested, I was surprised, but knowing Theo probably has
    been abused, why push it.

    Theo visits nursing homes and loves everyone, and is watchfull as any Shepherd could be.

            Like I said, some, not all, but some people SUCK, and what comes around--goes around 

                 Enjoy your dog, give him the hug he deserves!

        >>Theo Von Ryan & Virgo Von Ryan!

   Also, your life partner should not yell at you, you life partner can speak to you and communicate 
   their opinion or try to get their point across , BUT YELLOW--your life partner should respect you.

Mirasmom, that's really sad that he's so scared of men now. Yeah, that sucks, BIGTIME! 

My rescue, Tasha, was also very frightened of men when I first got her. She barked and hid when she first saw Roger (my husband-to-be.) It took him lots of coaxing and treats before he could persuade her to come near him.  The first time she saw him take out his camera tripod to take pictures, she thought it was a stick, and he was going to beat her, so she ran and hid again.

Fast-forward a couple of years...

A stick now meant 'playtime', and as I was out doing my nursing rounds most of the day, while my husband worked from home, she was fast becoming just as bondeded to him as she was to me!  If Roger and I got separated while we were walking, she'd run back and forth between us, not wanting to let either one of us out of her sight!

So, give him time.  He'll come around!  And he is indeed a handsome boy!

Mirasmom:     What was the   YELLOW       

ARE YOU DIRECTING THAT AT ME...?     i DID NOT ADRESS A HUSBAND SITUATION.....I ADDRESSED THE DOG WHICH IS A PUP.....THIS PUP NEEDS SOCIALIZATION.....

i WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE TO TELL ANY WOMAN A MAN THAT YELLS AT HER WOULD FIND HIMSELF IN SOME OTHER HOUSE...BUT SHE DIDNT ASK ME FOR THAT ADVICE..

HER HUSBAND IS DYING OF CANCER SO ITS A MUTE POINT AT THIS TIME...I AM ONLY ADDRESSING WHAT TO DO WITH THE DOG....

I TOLD HER TO NOT PUT THE DOG IN THIS KIND OF SITUATION......I THINK SHE CAN READ BETWEEN THE LINES.....

i could tell her a lot of things but no need....she ask about the pup who is only   9  mos old...this pup needs to be a puppy and quit worrying about making it anything.....but a pet.....she ask what steps to take....The dog has a home and is well cared for... she is taking her as many places as possible...hospitals dont let you in and she spends many an hour at them..

She has ask others in the training world and they have told her to mainly socialize Myshka.  That is her first and most important thing to worry about....then the obedience is next...I do not have any advice on home life or personal issues...

What did you want to say....throw your husband out in the street because he yells at you.....I guess thats what happened in Michigan at the trial this week end when a disgruntled competitor kicked the blinds and cussed the helper out....did they throw him off the schutzhund field...???????Is he banned from entering Schutzhund trials or is he banned from the club he is in.?????That was a german shepherd or a dog he was holding on the other end of a leash....for a grade....Respect , yes the whole world seems to have lost that word in the smoke stack or out the tailpipe of their vehicle they rode into town in....

My husband died of cancer and he never once raised his voice at me or the kids...but my husband was a man of valor and high regard for his family and a man of God that did respect.   Some people in that situation may not handle the pain of dying the same way...I cant criticize that or make any suggestions as that person has a choice to stay in it or try to handle the situation...The puppy is in the middle of it...and if handled correctly will be ok...lots of love and socialization ,,,no pp work..

well i am no expert that's for sure. sounds like she is protective to me. not analyzing why or if that's good or bad, just my guess that she is. my gsd spunky went thru a few months of some growling at the same age, and after repeatedly correcting her for behaving inappropriately in public situations, she now very rarely shows any protective behavior at all......now occasionally i will hear a rumble out of her if there is somebody strange in the yard when we leave for our midnight walk, but that is all. my girl isn't even remotely protective of the house, anybody can just walk in, and she wants to sit in their laps. the whole neigborhood loves her and when strangers ask if she bites, i say, no, but she jumps and slobbers. i don't think she would ever protect me but i have learned her mere presence at my side is deterrent enough for would be troublemakers. actually it's fluffy who scares people off, she is very alert and barks at anything. people don't come close enough at night to find out it's a standard poodle barking, they take one look at me with both dogs and cross the street, lol. shandra good luck with your girl.

I think that is the main reason Shandra has Myska is the feeling of protection by the mere sight of a nice german by her side...if she can overcome the few things Myska does that make her too quick to jump or react....she will be a nice companion for her by her side...a good feel to have when you are the sole provider and have to be your own keeper..

In a nuttshell it still may be too soon to tell if Mischa should be doing protection work because she's too young to really determine what is or isn't a threat.  She may have a couple issues right now you'll need to work on and that's pretty much what I would focus on at this point rather than trying to accelerate her to a higher level that she'd no where near ready for.

The advice that is typically given from the experienced trainers has been to wait until the dog has reached a certain level of maturity in order to make a proper assessment if he/she is a candidate for a personal protection dog.  Most even like to begin with training for sport while the dog is young and introducing bite work as a form of "play" making it fun; because on a young pup they don't have the maturity to associate it any other way anyways.  There's so much more that goes into weather a dog has "it"  but if everything is done right from the beginning starting from imprinting, socializing, foundation work and the dog has stable nerves, and the ability to think things through clearly then I'd say the odds are better than if you skip over some important "beginning stages" trying to accelerate a process that isn't even realistic. If Mischa hasn't had any expossure to bitework I think it'd be premature to say if she would be suitable for that level of training at this point especially since some of the "issues" you described in your OP have gone unresolved so far.

Her fear of other dogs may be able to get worked out. You may want to consider taking her to a club to watch the dogs train.  It will give her some exposure to the bitework and the other dogs at the same time.  Just watch her reaction and see if she's even interested. 

HI Shandra,

Best of luck getting Mischa in the proper training classes and getting her issues resolved!

This is off GSD topic, but still dog topic...Just by chance I saw your post over in the rottweiler section of this database ... I didn't snap that it was you until I saw the avatar when I came back here to the GSD section..

I know the breeder told you that he is purebred and gave you AKC papers as "proof", but honest to God, I would have asked for DNA proof on his or her male. Just because I have never seen or heard of a RED rottie certainly doesn't mean they don't exist, but your boys coat is way too short for a rottie. Never for a minute think that a dog doesn't need to be properly trained because as you said "he doesn't adhere to the standard." Neuter him, train him and enjoy him :)

Anyway, Good Luck with both dogs!

Stacy

Thank all of you for the information and advice. By personal protection I mean a dog that will defend or protect me in the event that someone attacks me or threatens me.. I do not mean a dog for competition or professionally trained for someone else to control. She is a pet and very much a member of my family. I am trying to take care of issues as they come up so that she will be a confident pet. Some of you have the impression that this is a daily thing, it is not. These incidences have only started occuring recently and since she has gone thru her first heat. It has also only occured at the home, never in public or off of the home turf. Out and about town she walks thru crowds or groups without issue, at one time she was fearful of strangers due to the lack of socialization but we worked on that and it was resolved.

Hodie, you are wrong. I did seek professional advice and followed that advice. I am not a breeder.

Mirasmom, By husband has ESLD and is terminal, Dr's didnt expect him to live to see June but here we are. I moved him in so that I could make his last days on earth as pleasant as possible. No one deserves to die alone.

Love my pooodle, I never tell people she will not bite or allow them to approach her. They must stand still while we approach them with a firm grip on her collar, even when she is relaxed and interested. I want no accidents.

Agar, I think my thought of PP is being interpretted as professionalPPD. That is not my intention, I want a confident, stable pet that will protect me when needed. There has never been any type of bitework done ot attempted.

Yellow, as always you hit the nail on the head. Thank you so m uch for the time and advice that you give. She was trying to pay attention to me while watching the cat on the roof lol

Sue, Thank you for reminding me of that incendent when she was 4 months old, I had forgotten about that. If nothing else, this board makes a good journal lol

Tracy. breeding was never an option. He is just a big lug that loves everybody. Yes the papers say rott but I think they had a fence jumper in there somewhere. He is a pet and a part of the family, he has a wonderful personality

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