Buyer beware - Page 2

                                                          YELLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                            HUH???????????????

            www.caninesports.com/SpayNeuter.html

You might want to check out this article, re. early spay-neuter: http://www.caninesports.com/SpayNeuter.html

I couldn't believe the changes in my bitch following her first season. She matured physically and mentally, in a dramatic way, within a few short weeks. Having seen this, I would wait until after the first heat, even to spay a bitch I wasn't planning to breed.

Spay/neuter pre-eustrus? Why? It is a FACT that dogs (just like us and other mammals) need their normal hormone levels to be present at least until they are physically and mentally mature. This applies for females (twenty months of age) just as it does for males (thirty-six months of age) because these hormones are required for the development of the very important secondary sex characteristics that coincide with mental and emotional maturity. That is one (1) of the unique things about the pronounced secondary sex characteristics of a well-bred GSD; the ability to discern the sex of the animal from quite a distance.

I usually do not post on threads such as these; but how could I refrain? It just makes me angry I guess.

Regards,

Bob-O

LOL, Mirasmom! We crossposted!

Well ya know what they say...bright minds think alike!

Are Yukon and Rio related? they look to have the same genetic hips?

Is it just me or is there another German Shepherd breeder on this board that has the same website layout?

I am not out to attack you or your dogs just wondering?

I have bred very few litters.  Of those few I have kept both female and male dogs for myself which remain unaltered.  I do not require spay/neuter of my puppy buyers but I would say 90% have no intention of breeding and they spay/neuter.  I keep in touch with many, many buyers who send photos and visit back with us and I was shocked at the difference between my unaltered pups/dogs (from the same litter-their siblings) and those who had the procedure done by their vets prior to first estrus (5 months or so) or male puberty. 

They are so much taller, they have narrower heads, the body lacks muscle development. The difference is VERY clear and apparent between early spay/neuter and those not altered or those who waited beyond a year.  Had I not known they were littermates I never would have guessed.  The jury still may be out on this but to my eyes the physical difference was marked.

I would be curious to hear from others who have bred if they have also noticed this difference.

Heather...How sad that you are breeding a dog with known temperament problems, yes I remember you from more than one board that I frequent and I do specifically remember Yukon and his aggression. Whatever happened to the chocolate lab you purchased for breeding and the female GSD that you purchased to breed to Yukon? Your dogs can not even be registered and/or titled and on top of it you are spaying/neutering pups before they are mentally and physically developed.

I have no idea why I either suprised or disappointed in you but I am

Darlene

Vom Herrenhaus German Shepherds

Grass Valley, CA

Wait Wait Wait .... why did the breeder NOT send you the papers if the dog is Registered CKC and unaltered ? What's the whole deal here ?  Just wondering.

I agree that altering a dog after sexual maturity and full developement of their secondary sex characteristics produces a much better adult specimen.

...Ever hear of a castrato?

It's a term for men who were castrated before reaching puberty to retain their boyish voice and appearence. I'd never want a castrato dog. With canines, or any other animal for that matter, early altering really does change the developement of both genders drastically. I had a cat who always meow'd in falsetto because he got snipped before he got his "big boy" voice. To be perfectly honest, it was kind of embarrassing *laughs*

JC carrol, Hear is a good example.  www.youtube.com/watch