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Ramage

by Ramage on 08 May 2012 - 13:05

Also, sometimes prelimbs do not show up on the OFA website. I have a dog who was prelimbed Good and he's not on the OFA website, but I have the paperwork to prove it.

and of course as Blitzen pointed out, they are good about mispelling names. 


aceofspades

by aceofspades on 08 May 2012 - 13:05

I definitely searched the OFA website with every humanly possible spelling and ful and partial spelling I could think of. I did NOT think to check OVC though as the parents were advertised as hips "OFA" and my buyers contract clearly states OFA. He is two so OVC would have still been in operation at that time. That said I will see if they are listed through OVC and will try searching by reg # on the OFA website as well. As for the guarantee yes it was for replacement of a dog with moderate to severe HD. Mild HD would be replaced at the discretion of the breeder and it stated that to enforce tw guarantee that hips needed to be xrayed at 24 months. I understand that thr kind of a guarantee is usually just for warm fuzzier but isn't it kind of putting the cart before the horse if you're giving this guarantee and you don't even know the status of the hips I your breeding dogs? If they really have not been certified, they could be breeding dogs who are dyslastic and creating litters full of shit dogs. Their website brags about what they are trying to achieve as breeders but really doesn't it all start with the hips in a sense? At the end of the day I guess it isn't really a big deal for me since Ace game out on the winning end of this genetic roulette but what about those dogs that don't? I am going to check with OVC though. Just in case but I have my doubts t this point.

by workingdogz on 08 May 2012 - 14:05

aceofpsades;
At least you know for next time
All buyers should research thoroughly.
Don't just take someones word for it. If it's
not on record somewhere, it didn't happen

Titles and health clearances are very easily
verified these days, so before cutting the check?
Make some calls or send some emails.
You may find out the sire or dam is not titled,
not koered, no OFA/A stamp etc.
This may come as a shock to some, but,
not all dog breeders/brokers are honest

trixx

by trixx on 08 May 2012 - 15:05

i wanted to add that you say one of the parents was an import, if he has an A stamp you can go to the SV site in Germany and see if he  has pass his hips ( they have a database there). there is also a part on the form for OFA if they dont pass they dont have to put them up on the data base and that does included the prelims.  but if they pass they will put up on OFA site. also next time you are intrested in buying a pup you can also ask to see the OFA certifcate , that everyone gets when they  pass there OFA.

aceofspades

by aceofspades on 08 May 2012 - 15:05

Ha ha. I am learning that. I guess breeders must take the approach that most will never look up the info to verify it, AND that they are mostly selling to people who are not workin and titling and or breeding so most will never have their own dogs OFA which clearly can open a can of worms like I just did. How do you check the status of koerklasse? Ace's parents are not titled or koered but Janna's are and I have no reason to doubt their titles but after the year we've had I would like to know how to look all of this up. I was hoping to buy another dog next year and knowing what I know now, I know how differently I would like to do things.

aceofspades

by aceofspades on 08 May 2012 - 15:05

Trixx thanks. It is Janna who's sire is an import. But I still want to know how to verify all of this so that I know what to do for next time.

by workingdogz on 08 May 2012 - 15:05

aceofspades
You can very easily contact the SV via email to verify
hip/elbow and working titles as well as koerung.
You can also many times google the sire/dams name
and it will bring up trial results, conformation
ratings, korungs etc.

Also, ask the breeder where the dog was titled,
which organization  if it was done here in NA.
Ask for copies of scorebooks, ahnentafel, OFA
certificates etc. They should at the very least be
able to produce those, they may not have copies,
but you should be able to SEE them in person.
Call and verify as well to be double sure.

Check AKC registration, ensure the sire/dam is indeed
registered, and that the breeder is in good standing!
If the breeder tells you the litter is registered, call and
verify this with AKC. You will need the sire & dam's
registered name. If the litter is not yet registered and
they are selling puppies, find out why. If you want to
'chance papers' coming later, ask to with hold partial
payment until papers are in hand.

Trust has to enter this of course, but, when you can
indeed do some legwork and verify everything you
have been told, why not? You wouldn't just blindly buy
a car or house without checking things out right?




aceofspades

by aceofspades on 08 May 2012 - 16:05

Workingdogz EVERYTHING you mention from check AKC and beyond is exactly what I wished I had known when buying Janna. I finally got her registration papers but they arrived a week ago and thanks to everyone here I know what to look for next time.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 08 May 2012 - 16:05

Ah !  Thanks, guys, thats a much clearer picture about hip 'guarantees'.  Breeders in the UK tend not to go in for making
statements like that in their ads;  although I am sure many that have confidence in their breeding programmes may say
similar things to puppy buyers.

aceofspades

by aceofspades on 08 May 2012 - 17:05

So I did a search on the OVC website and nothing came up.  it does say only dogs submitted from 2007 on would be listed in the online database, and I know at least 2 of the  dogs they have would be post 2007 and 1 would be probably 2007 and the other 2007 or before. 

None came up in a search.  I am guessing that their dogs have not had hip x-rays at this point and we just came out on the god end of the genetic roulette wheel.






 


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