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by allaboutthedawgs on 25 March 2008 - 23:03
they aren't nails. Nails are sharp projections that are used to impale an object. These are rounded end links designed to disseminate force around the entire circumference of the neck with a pinching effect. It is a pinch collar not a spike collar.
by Trafalgar on 25 March 2008 - 23:03
Personally, I believe that many dogs don't mind them.
I'd certainly take one off a dog that seemed unhappy etc...while wearing one.
Also, i think if the choice is that --->
1- the dog gets out to walk, run, exercise with a pinch collar
-OR-
2- that it never gets to leave it's own property because it's owner isn't strong enough otherwise....
--->then I think the pinch collar is the better option.

by yellowrose of Texas on 25 March 2008 - 23:03
Properly fit properly used on a gsd that is in need of any extra bit of encouragement to pay attention , will never harm the dog .

by mnm on 26 March 2008 - 00:03
Think of it as power steering.
A very useful tool, when used correctly.
Marsha Seck

by Rezkat5 on 26 March 2008 - 00:03
If used properly it is a very useful training tool. I do not think that it is cruel in any way if used correctly. My dogs for one, love their pinch collars! They know that they are going to get to train or go for a hike.

by sueincc on 26 March 2008 - 00:03
Mine has the same reaction to his pinch collar as Rezkat5's . All my GSDs have loved their pinch collars. They are not like nails, and do not pierce the skin. My dogs drives increase when I put it on because he knows he's going to get to do something fun like training or going for a hike.

by Wanda on 26 March 2008 - 02:03
I love my dogs and they love me. We both love the 'pinch' collar, though I would prefer to call it a prong, since it doesn't pinch. If you are unsure, put it on yourself and see how it feels. I did.

by Rezkat5 on 26 March 2008 - 02:03
Wanda, yes I have put one on myself. LOL
by Nicolesowner on 26 March 2008 - 03:03
Tried one on my little Nicole; it did not work...she still pulled my left shoulder half out of socket when a squirrel shot past us, and did not back off any more than she would have on a nylon collar.
Our little girl has a VERY strong prey and ball drive!

by Two Moons on 26 March 2008 - 03:03
for or against?
Yes they have to be used properly. Yes there is pain. Yes I would use one in certain instances.
No I am not for them, because they can easily be misused by people who dont know what they are doing or dont care.
I feel the same why about shock collars, they have use's as long as they are not used improperly.
I haven't needed a pinch but I do use electricity in several ways. Shock collars are a great improvement over an electric fence unit and a lot safer.
I'd say use the pinch if you have too. To each his own.
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