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by festnagler on 28 April 2012 - 16:04
You guys make my head spin with all this information......but what a good learning experience)))

by OGBS on 29 April 2012 - 01:04
I'm no expert on structure either, but, he looks like a very handsome dog, Nadeem.
The one thing that does stand out for me in the photos is it appears his family has a nice bbq grill. :-)
RW tells me he is extremely fast and powerful in the long bite.
I bet his structure looks great doing this!
Keep up the good work and put a 1 on him. Then take him to regionals in the fall.
It's right up the road in Marengo this year.
Best wishes with Bravo!
--Steve
The one thing that does stand out for me in the photos is it appears his family has a nice bbq grill. :-)
RW tells me he is extremely fast and powerful in the long bite.
I bet his structure looks great doing this!
Keep up the good work and put a 1 on him. Then take him to regionals in the fall.
It's right up the road in Marengo this year.
Best wishes with Bravo!
--Steve

by Nadeem6 on 29 April 2012 - 01:04
LOL, thanks for the kind words Steve.
Yes, we have a GREAT grill. Weber stainless steel Genesis. I love that thing.
Yes, we have a GREAT grill. Weber stainless steel Genesis. I love that thing.
by Preston on 29 April 2012 - 01:04
Coat is a bit too much to see exact details of the front layback, front angles etc. He could be a bit steep or short in upper arm, but maybe not too. I like his short correct back which is excellent. Obviously, this a very attractive GSD and actually very nicely constructed. His croup is praiseworthy, he has NO roachback and overall is proportioned very nicely. I cannot comment on his movement without watching him gait off lead, but I would suspect it is adequate. The only issue i noticed is very slight and that is that he could have a slightly better wither. This GSD reminds me of those from the 1970's and early 1980's. If he has clean joints, good temperament and is healthy, it can't get much better than this. I like the appearance of this GSD a lot.

by Nadeem6 on 29 April 2012 - 02:04
Thank you Preston. I heard from the breeder that on the pedigree on the bottom side ,some of the older Schutzhund people were very excited 'cause they knew many of the dogs. He has some "old blood."
He has wonderful, correct temperament and is in great health and just turned 2 years old this month. He has a touch too much defense but we have a great TD at our club so it is a non issue, and he just brings more prey out of him. He is a very happy worker and enjoys his time training with me. It's a bit strange but he takes training very seriously, but he trains in such a joyful manner, if that makes any sense. I do feel lucky with him.
The joints i will try to get done some time this year.
Here is the pedigree in case anyone wanted to peek.
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=703762
He has wonderful, correct temperament and is in great health and just turned 2 years old this month. He has a touch too much defense but we have a great TD at our club so it is a non issue, and he just brings more prey out of him. He is a very happy worker and enjoys his time training with me. It's a bit strange but he takes training very seriously, but he trains in such a joyful manner, if that makes any sense. I do feel lucky with him.
The joints i will try to get done some time this year.
Here is the pedigree in case anyone wanted to peek.
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=703762
by Preston on 29 April 2012 - 03:04
Nadeem6, I am familiar with the dogs in this pedigree. I can easily believe your description of your dog having correct temperament because this type of breeding has produced a high proportion with it. Many of the great GSDs in his pedigree had very strong, notable defense, so this is normal for a dog of that breeding and requires sound training. Many of these dogs had extreme "territorial dominance" drive (usually expressed as total courage and willingness to fight) which made them great 24/7 in home family protectors if properly trained. Much of this has been bred out of the current WL and SL GSDs so I hope you appreciate his courage. You are very fortunate to have such a nice looking young GSD with such desirable breeding behind him.

by Nadeem6 on 29 April 2012 - 17:04
Here is the best trot video i have, the angle is off a bit since he is free outside.
by Louis Donald on 30 April 2012 - 07:04
Hi Ibrahim - like your contributions and your enthusiasm but need to revise what you have drawn in the forehand - not correct!
Head parallel planes?
Louis
Head parallel planes?
Louis
by Ibrahim on 30 April 2012 - 10:04
Hello Mr. Donald,
I meant the Carnio facial axes (parallel).
Ibrahim
I meant the Carnio facial axes (parallel).
Ibrahim
by Louis Donald on 01 May 2012 - 07:05
Viewed from the side, the top [ line ] of the skull and the top [ line ] of the muzzle should be on a parallel plane just as you have shown on your line overlay. On the dog these lines are clearly not parallel? Maybe I am confused as to what you are saying, perhaps we are in agreement and I am misunderstanding you? No big deal just an observation.
Louis
Louis
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