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by onyxson on 09 January 2012 - 19:01
I APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU ALL HAVE TAKEN TO ANSWER. This seems to be a common problem with long time breeders. I wish to find a solution without involving outside forces (the police) and destroying someones life. there has to be a way within the community itself to self regulate and care for aging breeders and to assist them in reaching a managable level. A regulating group within the breeders. Such as a mandatory revolving team of licenced breeders who oversee eachother.
This woulld help the breed and the love for the breed. I would like all of you to know these dogs are loved and fed. there just isnt enough time when there are to many. Knowing your fellow breeders will help you with adoption and placement when a problem is acknowledge. PREVENTION
We must honor this breed that shows us unconditional love. High heads Bright eyes and honor. How about a Breeders Tax that will fund this?
This woulld help the breed and the love for the breed. I would like all of you to know these dogs are loved and fed. there just isnt enough time when there are to many. Knowing your fellow breeders will help you with adoption and placement when a problem is acknowledge. PREVENTION
We must honor this breed that shows us unconditional love. High heads Bright eyes and honor. How about a Breeders Tax that will fund this?

by Stumpywop on 09 January 2012 - 21:01
I don't believe there is any such regulation - although I'm in the UK so no doubt others in the US will put you straight on this one way or the other.
Secondly, if these dogs are being kept in such awful conditions then why are you hesitating doing anything about it? The situation smacks of neglect and whether the breeder is a reputable breeder where things have got out of hand or a owlife puppy farmer, the situation won't get better for the dogs unless someone reports them.
Secondly, if these dogs are being kept in such awful conditions then why are you hesitating doing anything about it? The situation smacks of neglect and whether the breeder is a reputable breeder where things have got out of hand or a owlife puppy farmer, the situation won't get better for the dogs unless someone reports them.

by cphudson on 09 January 2012 - 21:01
Onyxson, you should contact the local GSD rescue in your area to have them help the breeder place more than half of her dogs.
Also if they are working lines the breeder can donate many that qualify to the police / SAR groups.
Spay & neuter the dogs 5 years old+ to help stop any more breeding = too many litters the breeder can care for at one time.
All altered dogs place in loving pet homes where they can get the attention & love they deserve for their retirement.
Discuss with the breeder / have someone close to the breeder about co-owning many of their young breed stock so the dogs can go into homes. This will also weed out the dog #'s for one person to take care of.
Breeder should donate a large part of their website / advertisement into placing dogs they already have & not producing any more litters until the numbers are under control again.
But the breeder needs to take fast drastic measures to correct the situation for the sake of the dogs & the breeders health as well.
If all else fails then contact ASPCA to help out the dogs, if the breeder loses their dogs or not. 90+ dogs is way too much for anyone to care for at once without a large full time staff.
That # of dogs would take a large toll on the breeders time, physical / mental well being, & $$$.
Also if they are working lines the breeder can donate many that qualify to the police / SAR groups.
Spay & neuter the dogs 5 years old+ to help stop any more breeding = too many litters the breeder can care for at one time.
All altered dogs place in loving pet homes where they can get the attention & love they deserve for their retirement.
Discuss with the breeder / have someone close to the breeder about co-owning many of their young breed stock so the dogs can go into homes. This will also weed out the dog #'s for one person to take care of.
Breeder should donate a large part of their website / advertisement into placing dogs they already have & not producing any more litters until the numbers are under control again.
But the breeder needs to take fast drastic measures to correct the situation for the sake of the dogs & the breeders health as well.
If all else fails then contact ASPCA to help out the dogs, if the breeder loses their dogs or not. 90+ dogs is way too much for anyone to care for at once without a large full time staff.
That # of dogs would take a large toll on the breeders time, physical / mental well being, & $$$.
by brynjulf on 09 January 2012 - 21:01
Have you spoken with the breeder? Are they willing to place dogs? This would make the situation much easier. The big problem is that more than likely they feel the situation is under control.
If the dogs are suffering I really really really do not understand your hesitation with reporting the breeder to the proper authorities. Yes it can affect the persons life, that is why you MUST make sure that the dogs are indeed suffering. Involving other breeders is fine IF the breeder in question asks for help. Have they asked you to help them place dogs? I guess i just dont understand the situation well enough. in one post you say they are never out of cages and in the next they are fed an loved. It can't be both ways. I am sure breeders would be willing to help if the situation was clearer.
If the dogs are suffering I really really really do not understand your hesitation with reporting the breeder to the proper authorities. Yes it can affect the persons life, that is why you MUST make sure that the dogs are indeed suffering. Involving other breeders is fine IF the breeder in question asks for help. Have they asked you to help them place dogs? I guess i just dont understand the situation well enough. in one post you say they are never out of cages and in the next they are fed an loved. It can't be both ways. I am sure breeders would be willing to help if the situation was clearer.
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