Tim Helser is NOT DONE WITH DOGS.......... - Page 2

AMEN!  If everyone stops posting on this it will die as it should.

I don't think it should be let go - this guy is a hack job and now has an opportunity to hurt all of us by bringing discredit to breeds, aggression training, PP and sport.  We all know that Hollywood types have more money then they have common sense - so they are LESS likely then the average person (who already shows extraordinarily high "get taken factor" by people such as this guy) to see through bad dog training.  We also know that once the "elite" Hollywood types get a case of the ass about something the have the money, spare time, influence and press (national "face time") to make a crusade against any issue they choose.  So here is a guy who's never legitimately trained a dog for PP, K9 or sport, yet who's got no issues using half baked methods he clearly doesn’t understand on leaving them in a state of limbo – aggression tapped, no confidence built, no controls put into place, no back up from handlers who understand their “job” in the process.  These half trained dogs will end up biting people they shouldn't, not biting those they should and only leave people who have a high degree of influence on what does and what doesn't get legislated against in our society with bad experiences - that is bad for us all.   

There may be people out there with a personal axe to grind against this guy, bt the reality is that he’s doing all of us harm.

I am not one to throw stones, often, However, cledford, is correct.  we all are aware of the issues this man has. It will only take one wealthy/connected client to shut the sport/GSD down. I have enough problems getting insurance. There is enough information on this board and the net about him to know this is not a good thng for our sport/breed.

Our pet and house sitters are also happy to keep an eye on your home at the same time by doing such things as bringing in your mail and newspaper, alternating lights, opening and closing curtains/blinds, watering plants, and other activities that give you home a lived-in look.

Boy, is THAT scarey!

sig02 and AgarPhranicniStraze1,

If you're tired of the Tim Helser topic and want to "let it go" why do you guys continue to read these topics? Are you afraid to admit that deep inside you kinda like the drama but wont admit to it? If you want to let it go, stop clicking on these links and stop posting replies :)

Cledford & Shlley, very good posts.

I dont think the posts on this disgrace of a person should go away on ttheir own if they are of value, but rather the ridiculous, irrelevant, drama overladen & weak attempts at humour  posts, should.   The Best humour is often just in exposing him for what he is. 

Helser Has NO Credentials, other than Ruining dogs, Stealing & Lying.  He has yet to title a dog beyond a BH and failed at one of those as well.  He has Never trained a Schutzhund or PSA to a  title,  despite his attempts to lie otherwise.  The web gets more tangled the  more he posts, this is obvious, even to the brain dead.  

Cledford- I agree people should be informed to be aware and I don't like the guy just as much as the next person on here but clearly there are a few people who are just becoming a bit annoying just repeating the same things over and over again.  If it were "new" info. or news then that's a different story but when all the old regular posters are gone because for the past week 3 out of 5 new topic threads have Helser's name in them and they all talk about the same stuff I can totally understand why they all got fed up and jumped ship to lurk mode.  There's lots of Tim Helser's out there...how are we to police them all??  It's impossible.  If he were a smart con man he'd start using AKA's, but guess he hasn't thought that far ahead. lol

Brittany-  I don't necessarily read the topics because I like to feed into the drama- did it ever ocur to you that perhaps I read the posts in the event that it offers some sort of "new" information or perhaps just to sit back and shake my head at some of the other crack pots that devote all their energy on this moron discussing everything from who he's bangin' to what STD he has this week...what does that have to do with the fact he's conned many folks, ruined many dogs and talks out of both sides of his mouth??? Those are all things we already know are fact and should be the only things that concern the "dog world". I'm not above "warning" the public when it's deemed an appropriate time and I'm not above a good argument now and again especially addressing stupid is as stupid does HOWEVER it's threads like these that have made the real dog lovers, trainers, and breeders go elsewhere to share intelligent conversations.  Guaranteed Helser is not on those boards It's a sad thing for new folks like myself to not have many intelligent people to converse with and learn from weather it be their bad or good experiences.  Hell I'd rather start swapping recipes on here than see this name on every thread.

One last thing..."If you're tired of the Tim Helser topic and want to "let it go" why do you guys continue to read these topics? Are you afraid to admit that deep inside you kinda like the drama but wont admit to it?"  Maybe you should ask yourself your own question!  I'm the LAST person you want to provoke into a confrontation since I did not go looking for an argument with you;just merely stated this is getting OLD and everyone has left because of it all. 

I can't for the life of me remember ever meeting this guy, unless he was at the Raiser seminar in Atlanta last year. I met a few Eastern US working dog people there whose names I can't remember and I'm thinking he might have been one of them. We were so engrossed in what was going on in the seminar, myself having two dogs in it, I kind of spaced out on who was there.

SS

Shelley,

If you met him, you'd remember, (so too would your dog).

Trust me..  Big on BS, short on facts, titles,  experience & expertise.

Agar, this IS new info - put out to warn those in CA.  Tim's usual stomping ground has been in the Ohio area, so the fact that he is trying to lie, tell people he is leaving for NY, but doing business 2500 miles in the Opposite direction is pretty alarming.  It is important to stop this guy, as well as the ohters like him, for what he did to me was absolutely unspeakable!  I Do Not want anyone else to go thru this Anymore! 

The guy you met was not quite the same one I did.  Tim really had his shit together and his game on back in Oct of 2005 when we first met.  I thought he was really upfront & "well-informed" - I was only too new & naive/vulnerable to know any better.  All this might seem like a big waste of energy & an obsession, sure, and you might think I am a crack-pot for my continued efforts to call this guy out, but someone needs to stand up and bring it into the open.  What this guy does to dogs & the sport besides hurting people needs to stop.  But for darn sure I am Not the reason all the "old folks" on here have left, if they have at all. 

This board has sadly become a haven for those who prey on the unknowing & naive, and I know how sad it is indeed from my own experience.   Those are the real people at fault for turning folks off.  People who con & lie & steal like Timothy Helser are the reason SchH is going to die.....  We need to stop this before it happens. 

Nicole