Keep in home or in kennel - Page 2

KENNEL     and by no means is that 24/7    Blitzen   I cant believe you would think that any of    US would leave young pups , female or males in kennels .....not having our contact and love    thats a puppy mill trait or a owner of dog trait...

Dogs for sport and show need direction and under no cirxcumstances learn bad habits and they need focus on one thing  ,,,,,ability to look to the owner for everything under the sun and that is attained by kennel training....when gsd is two years old and ofa passed and has training under its belt.....then the priviledge of running around house may be assumed correct....

Unsupervised dogs turn out to be unsupervised dogs......too young to roam the halls......only when you are playing, loving and there to talk , bond and sit on floor and love it......time to go back to crate with a cow hoof or a bowl of delicious meat......it is more time consuming and more work  but it works....

believe me over 25 years Ive heard all the complaints of not kenneling the pup, young dog or even some older dogs.that have terrible attitudes.......wonder where they got that??????????????

Yellow Rose and Kyle. I simply asked if working dogs won't ever reach their full potential if they live as pets with human contact 24/7.  I never accused anyone of putting their dogs in kennels and forgetting about them.  Read my post again please.

I am just getting started with bitework, and because I was only used to training for
obedience, and not encouraging drive, all my dogs were hanging around playing together,
or so it seemed.

I was told by acouple of trainers that if I wanted a dog to learn bitework,
it can not hang around the other dogs,(Pack mentality)  and be dominated.
I didn't understand that it's drive can be wiped out, rather quickly
from other older dogs, pushing the younger ones around.

So for my Tessie pup, her play time is with me, and she maybe can have a brief
encounter with some of the other dogs, but carefully supervised.

I have learned my lesson.  Also one of the trainers said that their dogs have to work for their food,
it doesn't just get a big bowlful all at once.

Just make sure that one of your dogs isn't mean to the other, or jealous for that matter.

WE are discussing the training of a dog  not a two year old adult dog already in training and has manners, rules he already know, bonds he has already made,,,,,,,of course ,you dog ought to be free in your home after he gets to SchH 2 or any advanced level of training , no matter if akc or ufs or sss or hhh or what ever....you choose.....training is part of owning a german shepherd.....an untrained one is a menace to you and society......

No way would I contain a trained gsd all day or all night.....but a young dog is not to be subjected to the    "protect me " before he properly knows what that even is...sure he has a built in  protection ability....but do you want you shepherd to try inexperienced battling the bad guy without a good footage of training how to battle the bad guy    because bad guys know how to hurt a green dog.....

"How can a dog do his job of protecting me if he's out in the kennel and I'm in the house?

How much protection do you think a puppy or young dog is going to give you.  Would you expect your 11 year old that has been taking karate for 3 years to protect you? Frankly there is no guarentee that any dog will protect you from someone wishing to do you harm.  All I expect from my dog is to let me know someone is in the house, so as to give me time to get to equipment to handle the situation myself.

Kyle

Kyle: Ditto again........

I keep my dog inside. He's two this november. Home life hasn't effected his drives. I have spoiled him, and, since he lives in a family oriented home, he doesn't have much civil drive. But what does that mean? A dog can still win competitions with prey drive.

I got my boy not only to work with him, but so he can be my companion. IMO, dogs shouldn't just be kept in kennels all day. They need contact with people. It really gets on my nerves when people say. "OH. but a working dog just has to be kept in a kennel! Otherwise they won't work!"

I know quite a few people who have proved that very wrong.

I'm so confused now I've decided to sleep in the kennel while the dog sleeps in the house. That way if someone breaks into the house the dog will get him and he won't be spoiled.

HELP the mosquitoes are getting me.