Video of my female - Page 2

I agree with everyone about to much pressure from handler and helper. In our club if a dog shows that much pressure in the bite work (missing bites, handler sensitivity when handler approches, ect.) we either go back and build drive and foundation work or let the dog be  a little dirty twards the helper (let him/her bump in the blind, slow outs not corrected, ect.). we feel 80 pronouced is better than 80 vh.

I also agree with gard and others.  One thing you may want to try, is escapes out of the blind.  At the last second  have the helper run out of the blind to speed up the dog into the blind.  This is a very low pressure exercise.  To see a dog stressed in an escape is bad

I don't like the looks of this "trainer"/"helper" way too much face to face on a young dog. Anyone can see the dogs wont step in close, he should see that himself and ease up, build up the dogs. How many helper corrections have these dogs had?

Honestly, I think your dogs would do better with another trainer. This guys seems a bit locked in old school mode.

I'm talking about your videos and also the club dogs. All of the dogs are avoiding the helper=helper is too hard, making too many corrections, or unfair corrections. Can you tell me how the helper rewards the dog when it is correct?

Try using a long line on your dog to keep him in position on the H&B. I have never seen the helper turn slightly away from the dogs or break "the stare", every thing is full frontal and IN YOUR FACE to the dogs. Most dogs need to build up to that, not start their training that way. To me he is breaking them down, not building them up. Not a recipe for success.

very nice bitework..quick outs..needs to focus on the helper more.. looks around for the handler..helper needs to get his attention at those moments..very nice..

On Tank:

Bark and hold again lacks focus and intensity.  The dog lacks confidence towards the helper.  Helper does not stimulate dog but instead intimidates him??  

Why call out at this point?  Also why make control at this point?

Dog comes off escape bite, rebites but still shows avoidance.  Why out dog at this point, why not slip?

I would stop trying to do the routine and backup in training.  The dog does not have the fundamentals.  What club is this?  Who is the helper?

Angela,

This video of tank just solidifies my opinions. He does the exact same thing as your female ( he is a stronger dog though). He comes like a bat out of hell but goes waaaaay around the blind. He is not confident in his bark and hold because he has had too much pressure from the decoy. He goes in and out, up and down, and never gets into, let alone stay, in a proper position close to the helper.

The courage test tells the story. He comes in with good speed, only slows a little on the entry, and is confident enough to leave the ground and has a nice bite. If a dog has a good courage test, but has problems in the bark and hold, and comes off on an escape bite, what does that tell you?

You have nice dogs with poor training. I would suggest getting out and about and see what other people are doing.