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by The Good Shepherd on 15 August 2007 - 15:08
The only way to I can communicate it:
The perfect heeling in AKC Obedience is like watching a pair of dancers. They are totally into each other and are the only 2 in the world. To bad it only lasts a minute or two.

by iluvmyGSD on 15 August 2007 - 18:08
gsd fanatic- thanks, i guess i can kinda understand that somewhat--if they can walk like that 'without' tripping each other then it shows how in sync they are with with each other...right? but like blitzen said >>>
I've wondered too about the diagonal heeling. In the AKC OB ring that is considered "crowding" and a dog heeling that way will lose a substantial number of points.<<
(im trying to figure out 'how' to ask this w/o making anyone mad or offending anyone, seems like i have accidently done that the last 2 times i've asked a question, so beforehand- sorry if i 'ask' this the wrong way, im not trying to offend anyone)
So the diagonal heel is more like a "trick" the dog&owner do together as a unit? but it is not a actual "proper" heel? if i remember right, it's been sooo long since i've read up on it, but isn't a correct heel defined as the dogs front two feet are suppose to be directly beside/in line with your feet (or was it the center of their body?), and their head/eyes are suppose to face foward,only needing to look at you when you stop ? If im not doing shows/shutzhund, which one is the right way to teach my dog to heel? If he's just doing a textbook heel, does that mean im doing it wrong?
~julie~

by Don Corleone on 15 August 2007 - 19:08
I like to see a powerful dog under control. I hate to see a dog that begs for the sleeve.
The good shepherd,
"Too bad it only lasts a minute or two."-------Sorry! Maybe you should find a new "dance" partner.

by iluvmyGSD on 15 August 2007 - 20:08
wow, half my last post is missing...how did that happen?
OMG, how dumb of me, i guess i wrote it in white...lol.. i just ran my mouse across where the words were suppose to be and it showed up..lol, here is the rest of my post.....
(im trying to figure out 'how' to ask this w/o making anyone mad or offending anyone, seems like i have accidently done that the last 2 times i've asked a question, so beforehand- sorry if i 'ask' this the wrong way, im not trying to offend anyone)
So the diagonal heel is more like a "trick" the dog&owner do together as a unit? but it is not a actual "proper" heel? if i remember right, it's been sooo long since i've read up on it, but isn't a correct heel defined as the dogs front two feet are suppose to be directly beside/in line with your feet (or was it the center of their body?), and their head/eyes are suppose to face foward,only needing to look at you when you stop ? If im not doing shows/shutzhund, which one is the right way to teach my dog to heel? If he's just doing a textbook heel, does that mean im doing it wrong?
~JULIE~

by Don Corleone on 15 August 2007 - 20:08
No, you want your dog to be square with you. Sometimes, when a dog is very driven and you train with reward, the dog will go sideways inorder to get the reward. If you rearwd the dog in this position he will always do it. You have to correct this. You only reward when the dog is in correct position.

by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 15 August 2007 - 20:08
ziegenfarm- I like the flyin' dogs too. lol Especially when they're hanging dangling in the air refusing to let go at all costs. I'd imagine you'd have to have some super strength to catch a 90 lb dog and hold him up in the air like that. Who needs the gym right? lol

by Don Corleone on 15 August 2007 - 20:08
Agar
Not trying to start an argument, but you brought something up that always bothered me. Unless you are trying to work on the grip, there is no reason to do the helicopter with the dog. When you catch a dog, you should do a 180 and quickly put him on the ground and into drive.
by The Good Shepherd on 15 August 2007 - 21:08
Don,
Maybe you misunderstood, I don't need a new "Dance Partner". Last time I was in the obedience ring with my "Dance Partner" in the May 2007 we "danced" our way to a title. The heeling pattern should only last about 2 minutes if done correctly ( with the "Dance Partner" in heel position square with the handler).
Claudia

by PowerHaus on 16 August 2007 - 07:08
I like to see a dog knock down the helper! Not trip him up but actually knock him down!!!!
Vickie

by VonIsengard on 16 August 2007 - 15:08
Claudia, I think you missed the joke.
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