Vaccine Reaction - Page 2

Fort Dodge has had a number of recalls in the last couple of years. If i'm not mistaken, wasn't the Proheart shot that harmed so many dogs, from Fort Dodge? Many techs have knowledge of the harm that some of Fort Dodge shots have caused...I heard this two years ago, as one of my family member worked at a vets office, the year that proheart shot was taken off the market, and many vets kept giving it after it was announced, to use up their supply...I believe there were numerous lawsuits over that one.

I thought about this also afterward, I have periodically thruout my life also suffered from outbreaks of hives.. the worst episodes were once in high school my junior year I think and once about 4 or 5 years ago.. both times I have ended up in the emergency room with an anyphylactic reaction to something!! Both time it appeared to be aspirin related or sort of but the 2nd time, I was given enough antihistamines to put me to sleep for hours ... and my face swelled both times .. along with the facial swelling, my throat also started to swell and my voice got very raspy..... my point to all this is, I knew that something was really wrong with me even though I tried to poo-poo it as no big deal...

Our critters can't tell us their throat feels funny and GSDLVR, I didn't mean to sound harsh.. it was just shocking to me to see such swelling.. kinda how I looked

At any rate, it sounds like the situation was well under control but I would be very careful about the future and really everyone should read those papers by Dr Dodds.. she is trying to organize the same study and testing for the Rabies vaccine because it causes tons of problems too and it is now believed that animals have way more immunity for way longer than was ever tested before.. she is the pioneer of creating and maintaining a healthy immune system....

She is also the reason, I now vaccinate my litters way differently.. actually I don't vaccinate at least until 9 weeks.. really read it, especially people who are breeding and raising pups... it's good stuff

AWWW DKiah, you didn't sound harsh. You sounded concerned. I guess I have seen so much worse that I was relieved it was only swelling and not anaphylaxis. I always keep epinephrine on hand because every vaccine out there lists among other things as risks, seizures,anaphylaxis and death. I also listened to her airway and it sounded a little restricted. I had given her 50mg hydroxyzine by mouth and after listening to her airway she got some cortisone IV. Trust me, I did vital signs and listened to her airway before anything.

What I am wondering is if it was the rabies booster-killed, or the distemper combo that did it?

The vet said normally if they are going to see a reaction to vaccines it is with the third puppy shots, not the 1 year later shots, so I am wondering whats up even though it is a technical risk with any shot at any time. Poor little thing threw up and had diarrhea too when she first had the reaction.

Which vaccine is the most likely suspect??

As far as future vaccines, I don't know yet but I guess my gut would be to pre-medicate with some antihistamine and have the epi on hand.   

Often ,the first allergic reaction to something is followed by one's that are much worse. It is required to vaccinate so not doing it is not an option at this point.

I too work at a vet clinic and have never in my 8 years seen a vaccine reaction like that!

I too would modify my vaccination program.  Rabies you have to, but would consider premedding with something.

If she's had Distemper/Parvo as a puppy and a couple of years into her adulthood.  I'd consider titering there. 

I titer my dogs starting in their 3rd year, IOW, they get their puppy series, then first adult booster, then titer the year after that.  :)

My male this year needed just a distemper and his parvo titer was still very high.  And this was 3 years into it.

My oldest female titers stayed exactly the same.

The youngest just had her first titer, so she is of course, at good levels.

And actually come to think of it if you think that there's a chance that it's the rabies, I know that where I work, we have titered there too.  Written a letter to the township stating that it is in the best interest of the dog to not receive this vaccine.  yaddie yaddie yadda.  I'm vaccinated for rabies myself and we get titered every two years, my levels are still good 7 years later!

"It is required to vaccinate so not doing it is not an option at this point."

The only vaccine that is required by law is rabies, but as stated above, there are ways to get around that too.  We've had several, that have either had a bad vaccine reaction, immuno suppressed, etc. etc.

This vaccine reaction should be reported to the manufacturer.  They do keep tabs on these things.

Just my two cents.

:)

Why don't you just have a distemper and parvo titer done next year instead of vaccinating. You may find out your dog is still protected. I no longer give annual boosters to Blitz. He had his puppy series at 8, 12, 16 weeks, a rabies at 4 months and a booster of each at 16 months. From then on I only vaccinated him every 3 years for the distemper/parvo series and the rabies (since it's required by law). When he'd due again, he will be almost 8, so I will have him titered before vaccinating him. I do not believe dogs need to be vaccinated every year and not at all after 8 years for a lorge breed. In fact most vet schools are no longer recommending annual vacs for the average dog. Dogs that are shown and/or exposed to other dogs more frequently should probalby be vaccinated more often, but I'd still opt for titers instead of a routine vac. If you have multiple dogs, that might get very expensive however.

Also, never, never allow your vet to vaccinate any dog with more than one vaccine on the same day. Wait a month and pay for another office visit if you don't feel comfortable giving the vac yourself. I've vaccinated a lot of dogs, but only ever saw a reaction one time, so it's really not all that common IMO. Still one time is enough is put the fear of god into most.

Jean Dodd is the bomb, a true gift to dog owners. I take her word as gospel.

LOL Blitzen,

We must have been typing at the same time!  With the same train of thought!

Ditto on Jean Dodd! I had one pup to give a vaccine to and I bought 25 doses of distemper/parvo so I didn't have to give her the combo shots!

I am holding off until she is at least 1 year of age for a rabies. I saw a friend that I did SAR with coming out of the vet clinic some years back with her Lab that had a reaction from a shot the day before. She was still puffy but they were letting her go home. I hate the suckers for my dogs and hated them when I had to give them to my kids so they could enter school!

I am holding off until she is at least 1 year of age for a rabies.

I'm not into overvaccinating but that scares me just a bit.  There are too many things that can happen and you are screwed if the dog is not vaccinated for rabies.

One example:  we had a few clients where bats had gotten into their homes, and where i live bats are known to have rabies.

I just got some feedback on likely suspects. I don't regard this as the absolute truth considering it is from a vet I don't regard highly  { not my vet }.....but here's what they said. Distemper and lepto are the most likely suspects.  To get titers $200.00+ and to vaccinate $24.00.

I could care not about $ when it comes to my dogs so I would rather pay the $ than vaccinate without need. They also said distemper is recommended now every 3 years not 1 year.

remember this puppy is only one plus one half years old. To me she is still a baby. I mean,really, look at that face. I hope that's the right smiley. How cute is she even being as icky as she feels.

I did ask them to record the manufactuer,and batch number in her chart but tomorrow I will go over there and get a xerox copy so I have one too. Just for my records.To make sure they did it.

This is not a fun thing at all. I am greatful for the help you are giving me

I plan to let the manufacturer aware of this .