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BRITISH SIEGER 2007

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Mr Payne may i ask why the British Sieger is not using British judges for the puppy classes as was stated in the constitution when all the clubs involved voted to have such.It would seem to me that certain clubs have decided to outmuscle the Breed Council & its members who voted on a system to choose the British judges.They choseto delay this until it was no longer viable to choose British judges or do these 2 clubs think there are no British judges worthy enough to judge at the sieger? I put my name on this as i know you hate non entities who dont put names to posts.I look forward to your reply.

Matthew Lang 

1) It is NOT in the British Sieger Constitution that British Judges will judge the Puppy Classes in the British Sieger

2) The British Sieger  is organised by 3 organisations who are EQUAL with each other in respect of the British Sieger

The BAGSD (WUSV member Club) - The GSD League (WUSV member Club) - The Breed Council.

The first 2 (above) voted for the German Judges to Judge the Puppy Classes in the British Sieger 2007 - so that is a majority - democracy

Do NOT make the silly mistake that the Breed Council has more votes that the other TWO organisations.

Your assumptions are INCORRECT about 'delay'

The two WUSV member Clubs have made their decision, and voted the way they decided, it was theirs to make, whatever their reasons.

I detest 'anonymous' entities that make any comment or question of anyone who is known and/or their dogs, family, or any other matter personal to them, whilst the 'anonymous' entity hides their own identity, or does not explain who they are when they are an unknown, for instance ' who is Mathew Lang - tell me please?

Mr  Payne i have emailed you to let you know who i am.

I was lead to believe the the ultimate goal of the British Sieger was to have British judges judge the whole show in years to come.I have noticed that you haven`t answered my question on if the 2 clubs don`t think there are any British judges worthy of judging this prestigious show.

Matthew Lang

Matthew, I cannot answer the question you raise on behalf of the two clubs, I thought you might of understood that.

Having emailed me direct, and having replied to you, I will not entertain the "watchers" on this site any further. Many are what scousers call "fortnight people" = too weak, in most aspects of their lives.

Matthew, regarding your comment:

"I was lead to believe the the ultimate goal of the British Sieger was to have British judges judge the whole show in years to come."

There are many who would lead you and others to believe anything their wierd imagination came up with. Such people, and I have stood near them at Shows and heard them, spout of at newbies about this and that, as if they are the font of all wisdom on anything GSD. What always amazes m is when they have conversations with me, and their knowledge seems to have gone on vacation, they know little, have experienced even less, have absorbed nothing, over the period they have spent in GSD. One such person, a Championship Show Judge, and a Surveyor, has such a glib attitude to getting on top VA stud dogs, he openly tells newbies, I can get on this VA and that VA, if I wanted to. He has never mated any female to any male in Germany. He hasn't a clue about the German system, or the German structure, or much else, yet he spouts in an all knowing manner. Such people, and there are many in our breed, will feed newbies with garbage, trying to impress them, but they have "empty heads".

Many newbies can come onto this site and use the words "I was lead to believe this and that" - all I ask is tell us, who lead you to believe it, and watch them run and hide, and deny.

REGULATIONS FOR THE BRITISH SIEGER EVENT
1. The Event is open to German Shepherd Dogs only.
2. All handlers when exhibiting in the ring must wear a number bib. The bib
must be clearly visible. It is the owner’s responsibility to ensure the bib is
returned to the steward at the end of the class, otherwise lost bibs will be
charged for.
3. There will be a mandatory gun test for all classes over the age of 12 months
4. All exhibits must have verifiable Identification i.e. tattoo number or ISO
approved microchip. This is now mandatory.
5. All dogs over 24 months must have been breed surveyed
6. All exhibitors should report to the Secretary’s Tent prior to collect their ring
number, then report to the Three TTT’s tent. At this point the identification,
teeth, testicles will be checked. Paper work for Breed Survey/Korungs will be
checked (for Adult Classes only) in the Collecting area
a) dogs will be measured at the discretion of the judge in the ring
7. Hip Scores/Grades, haemophilia status (males only) & Working qualifications
will be published in the catalogue. Pedigrees must be presented. Please
ensure you include a copy of your dog’s pedigree with your entry form.
8. Entry to the Kennel Group.
Entry into the Kennel Group should consist of between three to five
animals of, which must have all been bred by the same kennel although not
necessarily in the breeder’s ownership. All dogs must be entered in the event
before they can compete in the Kennel Group.
9. All Exhibitors and handlers will abide by all instructions from the judges and ring
stewards and Event Manager
10. Entry fees will not be returned under any circumstances once an entry has
been made.
11. Cheques/PO’s payable to the British Sieger Event. Should any cheque, money
order etc. not be honoured immediately upon presenting to the Bank, the
entries will either be returned or the cheques, etc. represented for discharge
and any such costs or fees that are incurred, the exhibitor shall be liable for the
full costs.
12. In the event the British Sieger Event is cancelled due to unforeseen
circumstances it will refund any fees, less reasonable expenses, to all
exhibitors and if requested, provide a statement of the costs.
13. Dogs must not be left unattended in the precincts of the show and under no
circumstances are they to be tied up.
14. Exhibitors are responsible for the behaviour of their children and will be held
responsible for any damage caused.
15. Awards will be given out at the end of class judging.
16. Winners will be entitled to use the titles of British Sieger/Siegerin, Young
Sieger/Siegerin, and Youth Sieger/Siegerin. These awards will be presented
at the end of the event.

I am informed that two VA males from last years German Sieger Show will also be shown at this years BRITISH SIEGER, I sincerely hope so, it will provide a fabulous spectacle for everybody, as well as the opportunity for many to actually see them in the ring, performing. It will also provide a great opportunity to compare the males in the UK with them, especially those in the ADULT CLASS.

Dear MR. Payne

I am fairly new to the breed and noticed your comment on a Championship show judge/ Breed surveyor who tells new people about VA dogs he can get his females to. How would I know this person?.  You have many years in the breed and could you tell me who to listen too.

JOHN