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by Sunsilver on 05 July 2007 - 13:07
It means the puppy forms bonds with humans more easily, rather than being an independent thinker, and wanting to go its own way.
by WiscTiger on 05 July 2007 - 13:07
Sunsilver, just a quick note. The dam's pedigree is just as important as the Sire's pedigree, both contribute to the pup. So only seeing the sire's pedigree is only looking at half the gene pool
by DOUGLIFE on 05 July 2007 - 15:07
Actually the female play most of the role in the genetic build up of a puppy, thats why I always wonder about the craze that surrounds studs.
I would toss all the temperament testing stuff out the window. I have bred and trained many dogs and the temperament test rarely get you anywhere but wrong. So So So much has to do with you and how you raise the puppy. That is one of the things that makes the GSD breed so great is that for most purpose you can take any pup from a "good" breeding raise it properly and have an outstanding dog.
by Blitzen on 05 July 2007 - 16:07
Genes are inherited in pairs. one half of each pair coming from each parent. Each parent contributes equally - 50/50 - to the gene pool of every dog.
by platz on 05 July 2007 - 18:07
DougLife,
Good post. I used to breed greyhounds for racing, and I'd take a good brood bitch over a stud dog anyday. We had a brood bitch that we could breed to anything and her pups would run. I had people calling me up to ask if they could breed their unproven stud to her to help prove out their males. Give me a good "bitch" anyday. Everyone has a good stud in their back yard. Just ask them!
Donna
by WiscTiger on 06 July 2007 - 13:07
I guess I should have elborated a bit. I am not a breeder yet maybe some day. I haven't found the female/s that I want to start with. I personally believe that good breeding programs are built off the strength of the bitches. I can travel or ship a bitch to the stud I want to use and have a great variety of choices for my females (some day). But if I have a very nice stud and use him on OK to good bitches and don't use the stud that would match up with her the best, then I have done a disservice to my bitch, to the breed and to potential buyers. That is why I mentioned only seeing the Sire's pedigree.

by Sunsilver on 06 July 2007 - 15:07
There are two very good reason I didn't post the bitch's pedigree or photo. 1)She's not on the database. 2) She's American bred, and I didn't want to have to listen to people laughing and saying snarky things about her, especially since she's not titled. Both her sire and dam are ROM champions, though.
[quote]Actually the female play most of the role in the genetic build up of a puppy, thats why I always wonder about the craze that surrounds studs.[/quote]
Douglife, read Blitzen's post. What you've said above is a biological impossibility. The bitch may play more of a role, but SOLELY BECAUSE SHE RAISES THE PUPPIES, and they learn things from her, like whether humans are good/bad, when to be afraid, etc.
by Jeff Oehlsen on 06 July 2007 - 16:07
Quote: Jeff. this is my 4th GSD, but the first one that hasn't been a rescue. The temperment test spells out exactly what to do, and how to interpret the results. Not exactly rocket science! And after 4 dogs, one of which needed the 2x4-between-the-eyes approach for correction, I do know how to judge if a dog is hard or soft.
Have someone else do it, and you will start to see that it may have directions, but it really doesn't mean much if you have no experience to base it on. You can get a different interpretation from others with more experience than 4 rescues.
PS, I have had the 2x4 dogs. it is ok with me. I understand completely! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
by Blitzen on 06 July 2007 - 16:07
I'd love to see her pedigree, Sunsilver. If you want, you can send it to me at blitzengsd@comcast.net I am interested in all GSD's and like Am lines too. My first was half American line and he was a wonderful dog.
I agree with what you said about the dam's role in raising the puppies. In that respect she does have more influence on the temperaments of the puppies. However, the way the dogs look and their gene pool is a 50/50 deal period.

by Sunsilver on 06 July 2007 - 18:07
Thank you, Blizten! E-mail sent. :-)
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