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by gsdfanatic1964 on 20 June 2007 - 18:06
Don,
Yes, I've been looking at those. Will the bleach not eat away at the rubber over time?
Dawn

by gsdfanatic1964 on 20 June 2007 - 18:06
And I guess the urine doesn't soak into the rubber? Just checking.

by Pia on 20 June 2007 - 18:06
I use the same method as Molly ..I remove all solid waste bag it up and throw it in the trash ....nothing works as well as just getting rid of it :)) if I do use something extra for odor control I use the Yard and kennel stool and urine deoderizer / eliminator . This stuff works awesome . It does not cover up the smell it eliminates it :) Bottle hooks up to your hose and you just spray it around and inside kennels after cleaning .. safe for plants kids ,dogs :)
last year I installed in each kennel a box made out of 2x4's no bottom to it . The frame sits right on the kennel floor .I fill these boxes with shavings and all the dogs use these to empty themselfs . It's awesome clean up is a snap poop gets covered with shavings and also keeps odors away. I hate it when dogs poop anywhere in the kennel and then I get home and they ran through it YUCK. . The shavings can settle into corners etc because dogs go in and out of it but I rather have shavings scattered in the kennel then poop :) Got this idea from a judge that judged one of our club trials :)Even if I have to leave for up to 2 days and my son has to feed the dogs ( he hates scooping kennels!!) The kennel floor stays clean and the dogs are clean :))
Texas idea with ODO Ban ....no ants etc I like it !! could use it on the outside of my house :)) living need the woods we get all kinds of little insects that we do not want to invite into the house ........ Texas do use this stuff once a week ? or just once in a while . being a chemical I am a little cautious
Pia
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by gsdfanatic1964 on 20 June 2007 - 18:06
Pia,
Sort of like a litter box area in the kennel? How long did it take your dog (s) to start using this? Great idea.
Dawn

by Don Corleone on 20 June 2007 - 19:06
Gsdfan
I wouldnt worry about the bleach. If you bought (3) 6' x 4' mats for each 6' x 12' run, that would only give you two seams. They are very heavy and do not move. If you want extra protection from urine getting into the seam, buy a tube of silicon. When you are installin the mats, put it the length of the seam. when you install the next mat, the silicon will spread between the two mats. This should give you a good seal.

by gsdfanatic1964 on 20 June 2007 - 19:06
Don,
That sounds like a good idea. Probably better on their joints too with the cushion of the rubber. You wouldn't happen to know off the top of your head how much they run, would you? I appreciate the advice.
Dawn
by eichenluft on 20 June 2007 - 19:06
If the horse-stall mats don't rot with gallons of horse-pee sitting on it (which is what they are made for) - they won't absorb a couple cups of dog pee. Hosing/bleaching - or use Pine Sol if you're worried about the bleach - works great for cleaning/deodorizing the rubber mats. They work great in kennels, over top of concrete, or on ground.
molly

by Don Corleone on 20 June 2007 - 20:06
Molly
Does pine-sol have ammonia?

by DeesWolf on 20 June 2007 - 20:06
Just a suggestion, but we use mats that go in the back of trucks to line the truck beds. They are very similar to horse stall liners, a lot cheaper, and easier to clean. I hose down the mats, then degrease with a brush and DAWN dishwashing liquid, (we prefer the Apple Blossom scent, show dogs ya know), hose that off, then spray VIRKON and let sit for 10 minutes, then hose that off, and squeegee dry. It makes a big difference when you degrease before you disinfect. I use bleach once a week.
by eichenluft on 20 June 2007 - 20:06
hmmm - ammonia. I don't think so but would have to check the bottle to know for sure. I use the generic Pine cleaners - much cheaper and seem to work the same. From past experience with caring for/cleaning kennels in different facilities, I had one bad experience using diluted bleach (dog sat in a spot not hosed down completely and burned himself pretty badly) - and the fact that when I use bleach (always diluted in water) on the indoor runs, my eyes water/nose burns - which means it must really bother the dogs until it's dried. So now I use a bucket of water, with a gurgle-gurgle of bleach in, thrown on the outside runs, then hosed, then squeegied. On the inside runs, I hose down, then splash the Pine cleaner 'straight' on the floor - scrub-brush it - then hose down. Smells better, and safer for the dogs.
molly
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