Buyers be aware of this guy! - Page 2

"what is it with china, anyway??!!!!!"

The better question would be "What is it with our own government that it refuses to address such problems as tainted wheat gluten firmly by banning its importation until safety can be assured, just as China did when it banned the importation of U.S. beef after one American cow was found to have it?"  The answer, of course, would be that doing so would cut into corporate profit.

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. 

http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=144030#Post144030

i see there is a similar thread going on at the leerburg board as well........regarding pet food recalls.

and yes, p59teitel, our own government should not be taking part in this either.  blitzen, i've always said "some things are not about money."  time for me to put my money where my mouth is, huh?

pjp

who  in his right mind would go to china to buy a german shepherd?

v

It hard to recognize food grown and/or processed in China without country of origin labeling.

Fortunately fresh fruit and veggies will soon be available locally and I've already started to buy my meat and poultry from the local butcher and doing some research on a vegetarian diet.  I'm feeding Blitz EVO and feeling fairly comfortable about it. My personal concern is with the vitamins and herbs I take myself and the OTC pain remedies that are manufactured in China. Those plants seem to have free reign to do as they please with little intervention from the US FDA.

IMO the best way to determine which foods are safe  to eat and which drugs and supplements to take would be to try to find out what the Bush family consumes.

Victorio a Chineee would go there. Blitzee I like Bigots and Racists some R my best friends

Unfortunately it is very difficult to find out exactly what your are buying.  A product could be produced in the usa which contains up to 49.9% chinese materials, but contains 50.1% US product in it can be labeled Country of Origin - USA.  You can not be sure in this case that it is a product of the USA just because it is labelled as such.  I work for a food manufacturing company in the US and have been stuck in a project for the past year regarding moving our tolling faciliies to china.  In the first production 300 tons failed qc and they packaged all the products in different pack sizes then was agreed.  In addition after the first order shipped the vendors claim the government increased export fees by 20% which raised our cost significantly.  I am not impressed with any of my dealings with Chinese vendors, and must confess that I am looking forward to leaving this company after 18 years of employment with them.  Just don't like the direction they are going - reduce costs by any means is just not acceptable to me.  My last day will be the end of the month. 

 Cheryl

"who  in his right mind would go to china to buy a german shepherd?"

Someone in Asia might.  And maybe from this guy, who seems to have some nice dogs and about whom I've never read a single complaint:  http://www.patembhattis.com/ehome.htm

The problem with blanket statements like "Don't buy anything from XYZ!" is that you're hurting the good people along with the bad.  As we read almost daily on these pages, being a crooked breeder or seller has little to do with national origin and far more to do with individual lack of character.  I believe that well-regulated trade with countries that are less than free as we understand the term in the U.S. will eventually lead to better social conditions and the erosion of totalitarianism. 

That's not to say that I would trust imported dog food from China at this time, if ever, which goes directly back to my comment that such trade must be "well-regulated."  But ultimately the issues with tainted animal feed and a lack of standards vis-a-vis imported foodstuffs is every bit as much our own responsibility to discover and prevent as it is the Chinese manufacturers responsibility to not supplement food with poisons in the first place.  I certainly believe that our own government owes us a much higher duty than does some Chinese factory owner.

But so long as we keep electing Presidents like Bush, whose own brother was and maybe still is receiving $2 million per year to lobby for a Chinese semi-conductor company linked to the former Chinese Premier's son (along with as many young hookers as he could handle, as came out in his divorce proceedings!), then if you follow the policy far enough you'll find the money behind it.  Not that Clinton or Bush I were much better when it came bribery in exchange for favorable trade policy decisions, of course, they just weren't as blatant. 

Here's a different take on the influence boycotting Chinese products would have on the general population of that country.

http://www.buyhard.fsnet.co.uk/

Bush is the poster child for what can happen to a country that votes for the man who promotes himself the loudest as being a Christian and a moral family man. 

Buy a dog from China? Yeah right. Maybe if you LIVE in the far East. I can't begin to imagine what it would take to get the dog to the US... red tape anyone? Logistics nightmare? Quarentine? Vaccinations? Valid health certificates. Guarantees? Foreign registration issues?

I would never buy a dog from a thrid world country unless I was IN the third world country.

SS