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VonIsengard

by VonIsengard on 28 May 2007 - 02:05

It depends on whether or not they have other dogs. I dont allow people to see them if they went to another breeder beforehand.  Certainly no earlier than 6 weeks.

by willowshepherds on 28 May 2007 - 03:05

My vet won't vaccinate my pups at 6 weeks, he says they are too young, I usually take them in at about 7-7 1/2 weeks to get them vaccinated.

by GSD2727 on 28 May 2007 - 13:05

I allow people to come visit my pups pretty much whenever they want.  Like Molly said, usually not the first week to allow the mom to settle in and usually I am still recovering :)

I keep hand sanitizer by the puppy box and ask people to use it before handling the young pups.  I have in the past asked people to take their shoes off when they enter the puppy room, but I didnt bother doing that for this recent litter. 

 If I give any vaccinations, it is not until 8-9 weeks for the first one.  Having someone come over right after you give a vax at 6 weeks will not keep the pups any safer then if people come over right before you give it. 


by DKiah on 28 May 2007 - 14:05

I totally agree with Molly on this one, the benefits of good socializing with people other than myself far outweighs the risk of infection of a healthy litter with a healthy mother. There are certain people who I allow in early on and my moms are ok with this.. Obviously, anyone coming in knows enough to not have been around a sick dog and then come to my house to handle pups, just common sense. But I do let other puppy buyers in around 2 weeks as well.. it is very exciting for people who are anticipating a new addition to actually see them grow and develop and the benefit to the pups is immeasurable. We often will have crowds of people over on weekends to see pups and play outside with them in the puppy agility yard, everyone has a blast! Our pups usually see the outdoors from about 3 weeks on..... 

Puppies who nurse on their mom within the first 24 hours get all the antibodies from her that they need and it is believed that these antibodies do not deplete until 8 - 9 weeks so I personally do the first vaccination at 9 weeks, then 12 and 15 or 16.. most of my pups leave here at 8 weeks.. we tattoo at 7 and they get to see the vet shortly thereafter for a health check and then they go to their new homes...

For specific information on the new AAHA vaccination protocols and the research and recommendations of Dr Jean Dodds (pioneer in the verterinary field on the workings of the canine immune system).. just do a google search on either of those subjects and tons of information  will come up. 

Like Diane says, pups and their immune systems need to be challenged in order to become strong and thrive.. if we totally shelter them, they will have no strength to fight off anything....

This has worked for  me for a good number of years, more than I care to admit to........


by Laris on 29 May 2007 - 01:05

I agree with Molly and DKiah.
I am with the idea of "their immune systems need to be challenged in order to become strong and thrive."  I feed my dogs with raw food, sometime even when the bone/meat starts to rot.  I also let my dogs to drink from drain/stream as long as I am certain that there is no chemicals.
I dewormed my dogs regularly, they are healthy and they rarely fall sick.

Changer

by Changer on 29 May 2007 - 06:05

As a buyer, I would never buy a puppy over 8 or 9 weeks old. I want control over what they see and all their experiences and especially get them away from their littermates! I have heard that the socialization window closes at around 12 weeks old and don't tell me that a breeder with a whole bunch of puppies can socialize better than I can with my one puppy.I would also want to see them way before and in my opinion and experience, you can tell quite alot about drives at that age.

by EchoMeadows on 29 May 2007 - 06:05

Changer have you read all the material about "bite inhabition"  and the "IMPORTANCE" of pups being with mom and sibs until Bare minimum 6 weeks,  and up to 12 weeks ?????

Also in some states your NOT ALLOWED to sell pups until they have reached 8 weeks of age some are 9 weeks and others still are 12 (not many)   What if a potential pup is in a state where laws regulate the age of the pup ???

Dianne,  Thank You for that tip,  But my vet is like willowshepherds vet does not like the "idea" of early age vaccinations and that is how he had explained it to me also is how other vets have explained it,(several in fact)  However your explanation is excellent and more likely for me to beleive. which might explain why I go ahead and vaccinate at 6week mark.  Again Thank You Dianne !!


MVF

by MVF on 29 May 2007 - 06:05

If you are worried, and it is obvious that no one can be sure of this complicated issue, you can avoid scaring off good buyers (with overly long and ill-timed waiting) if you make sure that there is plenty of video taping of the litter, with colored colors for identification, and high quality puppy testing done at 49 days.  Working people don't want to wait until 8-9 weeks to see a litter if no one with a wonking eye has been recording their behaviors and testing them. 

MVF

by MVF on 29 May 2007 - 06:05

I, like Changer, vastly prefer to take a pup home at 7 weeks.  In fact, in 25 years, I can honestly and shockingly say that every time I brought a pup home at 7 weeks I went all the way with the pup, and almost every time I waited past 10 weeks I had lost too much critical time and it worked out less well; in no cases did I go all the way.  (I have a sweet, non working bitch right now who I bought at 4 months, so I never learn...)

by Blitzen on 29 May 2007 - 13:05

Here in PA we are not allowed to transfer a puppy until it is 8 weeks old. That law was passed mainly to prevent all the Amish puppymillers we have here from selling puppies to pet shops when they were only 4, 5 weeks old, some even younger. Now they have to hold them until 8 weeks of age and then they sell them to the pet shops. I guess it does cut into their overall profit.





 


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