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Trailrider

by Trailrider on 23 May 2007 - 15:05

BTW they are both spayed females too!

Shepherd Woman

by Shepherd Woman on 23 May 2007 - 15:05

Back again.  Any suggestions though on how I can calm this down, allot?  Or is there no hope except to let them out seperately from now on?

by triodegirl on 23 May 2007 - 15:05

When I was babysitting for my ex's alpha male yesterday afternoon he kept trying to push my male Trigger around. Things never escalated to a fight because Trigger completely ignored him. The alpha male would get right in his face growling and snapping and Trigger would just bring me his ball and wait for me to throw it, like the other male didn't exist. After reading this thread, now I'm wondering if Trigger is really the alpha male and my ex's dog is the alpha wannabe? Have to admit, Trigger's behavior yesterday was very confusing.

Shepherd Woman

by Shepherd Woman on 23 May 2007 - 15:05

Sounds like that's about right.  I don't think that if Trigger would have taken the other one on if he weren't the alpha.  What do you think?

Trailrider

by Trailrider on 23 May 2007 - 16:05

SW I don't think your girls are ever going to be trustworthy, seems like once this starts they are always going to squabble, guess its why they are called bitches. It sounds like it is mainly the bl/tn female that wants to beat on the mix,right? Does the mix fight back and they are hard to break up? Or if you pull off the bl/tn does the mix run for cover? Even if she does, this could change I guess...the only thing I think you can do to be absolutely safe is seperate them. The next would be one or both wear a basket muzzle. If the mix will not attack the other she may not need a muzzle. Or like I did, try to know the triggers and not let them happen. These two females I have 99% of the time are fine in the house laying around so they don't have to be seperated all the time. The trouble would start when it was walk time or horse feeding time and we were heading out a door (they got really excited), then too it was not all the time, but mostly when the fights erupted. I changed my way of dealing with the dogs. My husbands dog would (now 12+) go in a crate, then out I go with the other dogs. I come back from a walk, put Yette in another crate, let out Willow, go for another short walk (because of her age and condition now). If Willow is out with my husband and I want to take a walk with the other dogs or feed. I put the house gang out in the yard. I go out and call Willow and make her come in the house... then go take the others to do the walk or feed horses. It for me is a pain, but I am use to it now, at first it disruped my life. I hated to leave one dog out I guess. But it is better than trips to the vet for stitches. I know it is not 100% even at their age so IMO you have alot of years ahead of being careful. On the Leerburg site one testimonial to the basket muzzles sound good. One female was the aggressor, she wore a muzzle during the day hours and at night one female slept in a crate or something like that....just have to try to find what will work for you and/or what your willing to put up living like. I have another friend who just had large wire crates and rotated her dogs that didn't get along. One in the crate one loose.... I read articles of people blocking part of their house off so one dog has this side, the other that.... no matter what I think it is a pain in the butt and a change of emotions and life style (that I was use to anyway). Good luck! Hope it works out for you and the girls!


by 1doggie2 on 23 May 2007 - 16:05

I have a male and female, my Mom has a Wanna be female, and lord is she a pushy bitch. My female use to just stay out of her way, or when my male got tired of her pushing my other female around he woud get up and go nudge her with a low growl. They have all handled each other well for years until yesterday. Thight area by the fence and the UPS guy came and they all got in a frenzy. The fight begins, Luckly I was on the other side of the fence and was able to get them calmed yelling, My Moms female went after my female, throat, My male shut down my Moms female before she could get a good grip, so no damage and knicked her in the ear then sat on her, and looked up at me, like, well stupid what do you what me to do with her?

 I will never leave them alone again. if something sets them off,  I know that they will fight each other. Each dog in thier own right is wonderful with solid temperment. But together, it is back to the law of the dogs. The females will fight to do carnal damage, my male will do just enough to get your attention and shut it down. I count myself lucky, and promised my male I would not be so stupid again.


Shepherd Woman

by Shepherd Woman on 23 May 2007 - 17:05

I just talked to a friend of mine and now I'm crying : - {  She suggested because this isn't the first time that Princess has went after Downy and hurt her, and now she has bitten me in the process, that I either give her away, or put her down : - {  I for sure don't want to have to wait until this happens again and someone gets hurt even worse.  I can't bare the thought though of putting her down.  If I could find a great home for her and she would be the only dog, I would consider that.  Or if they had a male, not a female dog already.  I think she would get along with the male with no problem.  I don't know what to do! 

animules

by animules on 23 May 2007 - 18:05

Just keep them seperate.  That's the norm for many people that responded to your post if you bother to read the answers.  It's not a big deal.  We have 4 females, they each have their own time with us or in the yard.  Your "friend" doesn't understand dogs if that's her answer.

gsdlova

by gsdlova on 23 May 2007 - 19:05

If a female gets challenged by another female dog, she might accept that challenge and fight as hard as she can until one "surrenders" or the owner breaks up the fight. Females are brutal fighters and will even fight to the death. Make sure all of them know that you are the boss, not one of the dogs, as many fights start because of dominance or rank issues in the pack, so they fight to see who is the boss, and the lower ranking dogs might keep challenging the boss dog, thus more fights.

Trailrider

by Trailrider on 23 May 2007 - 19:05

SW It is definately do-able, just a pain and you have to always know where each female is when your in the proces of doing something that they might have an altercation. As for her biting you, my husband got bit and lost his fingernail over it but we kept the dogs and worked thru it. You don't have to make any rash decisions anyway. If a really good home comes along for the one female that your comfortable with, well let her go, if not just deal with it. Its just dog behavior, I don't think she should be PTS over it....as animules said, she either doesn't understand dogs or has never bonded close to one to suggest such a thing.





 


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