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by animules on 24 December 2010 - 04:12
The stud that I really like is at Suzanne's. He's a very nice clear dog. I'm looking forward to breeding Georgia to him.
http://www.vongrunheideshepherds.com/frits.html
http://www.vongrunheideshepherds.com/frits.html

by Don Corleone on 24 December 2010 - 04:12
Animules, which one? I saw 7. Saw she used Javir. Nice to see someone with that many dogs going outside for a stud.
by MrsK on 24 December 2010 - 04:12
too bad Orry vom Gehrenmoos died. He used to be one hell of a dog.
by Jeff Oehlsen on 24 December 2010 - 04:12
Quote: As a perspective buyer I would never even consider a dog from some of you who are so offensive on here and I commend Molly for taking not stooping to that level
You need to go through some of the older posts and see why she gets treated the way she does. I have been in this dog world for most of my life, and you can read into whatever you want from the little history that you know.
That is something that you have to think about. This board is now moderated, so she is quiet. It is a place that she advertises her dogs on a lot. Before it was moderated, you can go back and see some of the things that she has said about others and make your decision from there.
I do not go after people "just because".
Think what you want of me, I am not an insecure person by any means. However, if your criteria for getting a dog is based on molly not stooping to low level bashing ? : )
You need to go through some of the older posts and see why she gets treated the way she does. I have been in this dog world for most of my life, and you can read into whatever you want from the little history that you know.
That is something that you have to think about. This board is now moderated, so she is quiet. It is a place that she advertises her dogs on a lot. Before it was moderated, you can go back and see some of the things that she has said about others and make your decision from there.
I do not go after people "just because".
Think what you want of me, I am not an insecure person by any means. However, if your criteria for getting a dog is based on molly not stooping to low level bashing ? : )
by nanu on 24 December 2010 - 17:12
workingline best new stud
by newguy on 13 December 2010 - 04:12 newguy
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Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 04:33 am
i was just wondering what are some of the new best proven workingline studs! ive been out of the game a while.
Thanks for starting this post, I do not get to do the "dog travel" as I once did and so, miss some of the new dogs coming up. It was great to see some of the info out there. I hope to hear about more!
Happy and peaceful holidays to all
Nancy Rhynard
www.westwoodkennels.com
by newguy on 13 December 2010 - 04:12 newguy
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Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 04:33 am
i was just wondering what are some of the new best proven workingline studs! ive been out of the game a while.
Thanks for starting this post, I do not get to do the "dog travel" as I once did and so, miss some of the new dogs coming up. It was great to see some of the info out there. I hope to hear about more!
Happy and peaceful holidays to all
Nancy Rhynard
www.westwoodkennels.com
by FullForceK9 on 26 December 2010 - 01:12
Here is a list of dogs that I like. Not all are titled or world champs but studs I know produce, or are very tough gsd's.
1) Aceofnike van het Bleekhof
2) Timmy vom Zollernblut
3) Iwo vom Hunxer Wald
4) Wasko vom Eifelgrund
5) Campino vom Münzspiel
6) Eick von der berger Hochburg or his sire and his brother
7) Hannes vom Spadener Holz
8) Vito vom Waldwinkel
9) Max Tiekerhook
10) Eliot von Prevent
11) Bandit vom Wolfsheim
List is not all studs or bloodlines I like, but enough I'm sure will start controversy, hate and discontent on this forum lol....
1) Aceofnike van het Bleekhof
2) Timmy vom Zollernblut
3) Iwo vom Hunxer Wald
4) Wasko vom Eifelgrund
5) Campino vom Münzspiel
6) Eick von der berger Hochburg or his sire and his brother
7) Hannes vom Spadener Holz
8) Vito vom Waldwinkel
9) Max Tiekerhook
10) Eliot von Prevent
11) Bandit vom Wolfsheim
List is not all studs or bloodlines I like, but enough I'm sure will start controversy, hate and discontent on this forum lol....
by gieske on 26 December 2010 - 02:12
ok, that is a really good list you made, very thoughtful and comprehensive. I have used and own progeny from some of those dogs.. Four of them actually.
Is Iwo vom Hunxer Wald a titled dog? I have been looking for a Janko son for some time. Where is he at?
thanks,
cindy
Is Iwo vom Hunxer Wald a titled dog? I have been looking for a Janko son for some time. Where is he at?
thanks,
cindy
by eichenluft on 26 December 2010 - 06:12
Jeff, you are full of crap as usual. Everything you post is crap as usual. Your dog is crap. You bred two underage non-hip rated, untitled dogs and ADVERTISED the litter on here. I do hope that anyone remotely interested in actually purchasing one of those pups sees the parents work before they give you any money. Looking at the dogs in the pedigree work doesn't cut it, as you must know if you know anything about working dogs. I hope you tell your prospective buyers your experience in any sport - how many dogs you have titled (one easy title on one dog), how many trials you have tried to title a dog and failed miserably. (Lots)
Daryl, you are breeding your "herding" female right? Is she herding titled? At least you keep trying to work some dogs.
I welcome anyone to "go back" and look at my posts from "way back when". My posts are mainly helpful and informative to people who ask intelligent questions about topics I know about from experience. Otherwise, I get defensive when crappers like YOU talk about myself and my dogs you have never met, never worked, and don't know anything about. I guess you are jealous, right? Well, get over it.
Potential puppy buyers - you may not think that titles are important but you are selling yourself short. Titles (and the work involved with getting titles) prove the dog is breedworthy. Yes, there are titled dogs that are not breedworthy - and I'm sure there are untitled dogs that are breedworthy - but I say PROVE IT by working the dog to titles. The work (and legitimate titles) prove the dog itself.
People who breed underage dogs with no titles, no test of breedworthiness at all, no health checks and no thoughts about the breeding other than the dogs in the pedigree, or breeders who have all sorts of excuses why the dogs are not titled or worked - are fooling themselves and fooling the people ignorant enough to buy from them. Or, they are just interested in your money. Either way, steer clear. Or, don't steer clear and find out the hard way, later.
I have nothing to hide and never did. Anyone interested in my dogs can come meet them in person, work them, see them worked, talk to the trainers and helpers who work them and know them personally, watch videos, talk to the people who know the dogs and own puppies - and people who buy my pups have 100% support ongoing in the form of a private e-mail chat group, yearly reunion where everyone meets (and dogs and offspring are worked), and constant direct support and availability of the breeder (myself). Not many breeders (if any) provide this sort of after-purchase support.
As for brothers, Shelley who is misinformed as usual - the brother I happen to own, is the more successful brother in the work. He was titled (with very good scores) before he was 3. Brother in Europe is now schh3 over a year later - and neither has been trialed at high levels. Yet. Both are producing excellent and both dogs' progeny are only now getting old enough to start proving themselves in the work. It will only get better. Many smart breeders are bringing their females to Bandit, and so far I haven't heard of any unsatisfied breeders or puppy buyers. (YOU would be one of those breeders LOL) There is really no reason to take him to the big trials - he's getting plenty of breedings without taking him there (as is his brother). I might, because he's worked and I enjoy trialing. Or, I might not. Up to me LOL
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Doesn't look like he's too interested in the sleeve, d
Daryl, you are breeding your "herding" female right? Is she herding titled? At least you keep trying to work some dogs.
I welcome anyone to "go back" and look at my posts from "way back when". My posts are mainly helpful and informative to people who ask intelligent questions about topics I know about from experience. Otherwise, I get defensive when crappers like YOU talk about myself and my dogs you have never met, never worked, and don't know anything about. I guess you are jealous, right? Well, get over it.
Potential puppy buyers - you may not think that titles are important but you are selling yourself short. Titles (and the work involved with getting titles) prove the dog is breedworthy. Yes, there are titled dogs that are not breedworthy - and I'm sure there are untitled dogs that are breedworthy - but I say PROVE IT by working the dog to titles. The work (and legitimate titles) prove the dog itself.
People who breed underage dogs with no titles, no test of breedworthiness at all, no health checks and no thoughts about the breeding other than the dogs in the pedigree, or breeders who have all sorts of excuses why the dogs are not titled or worked - are fooling themselves and fooling the people ignorant enough to buy from them. Or, they are just interested in your money. Either way, steer clear. Or, don't steer clear and find out the hard way, later.
I have nothing to hide and never did. Anyone interested in my dogs can come meet them in person, work them, see them worked, talk to the trainers and helpers who work them and know them personally, watch videos, talk to the people who know the dogs and own puppies - and people who buy my pups have 100% support ongoing in the form of a private e-mail chat group, yearly reunion where everyone meets (and dogs and offspring are worked), and constant direct support and availability of the breeder (myself). Not many breeders (if any) provide this sort of after-purchase support.
As for brothers, Shelley who is misinformed as usual - the brother I happen to own, is the more successful brother in the work. He was titled (with very good scores) before he was 3. Brother in Europe is now schh3 over a year later - and neither has been trialed at high levels. Yet. Both are producing excellent and both dogs' progeny are only now getting old enough to start proving themselves in the work. It will only get better. Many smart breeders are bringing their females to Bandit, and so far I haven't heard of any unsatisfied breeders or puppy buyers. (YOU would be one of those breeders LOL) There is really no reason to take him to the big trials - he's getting plenty of breedings without taking him there (as is his brother). I might, because he's worked and I enjoy trialing. Or, I might not. Up to me LOL
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Doesn't look like he's too interested in the sleeve, d

by darylehret on 26 December 2010 - 07:12
Actually no, not Nickie. I'll be breeding her untitled un-OFA'd daughter to Nickie's untitled un-OFA'd half-brother. The litter I'm producing is for ME, and that's reason enough. Your judgement means nothing.
by eichenluft on 26 December 2010 - 08:12
Then why do you claim she's a "herding female"? Isn't that false advertising Daryl? I hope you are more forward and honest with your puppy buyers than that. Why don't you always post like you did above, because you don't care what people think? You breed untitled dogs, and un-ofa's dogs too? a shame. But at least you would be telling the truth.
Jeff, why don't you post a link to your dog Eskos' working video here so people can see? Maybe people would like to see how much he is just like the dogs you posted that are in his pedigree. Or not.
How about a video of the untitled female you bred? Might be interesting. I'm sure you work her too at least a little before deciding to breed her, don't you?
molly
Jeff, why don't you post a link to your dog Eskos' working video here so people can see? Maybe people would like to see how much he is just like the dogs you posted that are in his pedigree. Or not.
How about a video of the untitled female you bred? Might be interesting. I'm sure you work her too at least a little before deciding to breed her, don't you?
molly
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