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by Mystere on 14 January 2009 - 22:01
"...and yet they came...and yet they came... " Wasn't that a line in some horror movie? Seems apt.
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by Sunsilver on 15 January 2009 - 00:01
I stand by my claim. Back before Tina split her breed off from the GSD, she WAS heavily involved in Schutzhund with her Shiloh Shepherds:
In 1962 I wanted to start building my own reputation, and chose Konigin for my kennel name. I had researched all of the top kennels around, and seen some dogs at the shows Margo took me to, so I knew what I wanted. I already had a Liebestraum and a Wikingerblut female, now I wanted to expand. Odin von Busecker Schloss, was my idea of near perfection, I felt that his lines would cross well with my girls. Yet I was missing some of the confident temperaments I needed for the strenuous Schutzhund competitions I planned to train for. The Piastendamm dogs solved that problem for me quickly! Although not as big as I had hoped for, their temperaments were impeccable! When combined with the superior intelligence of the Liebestraum lines, this was an unbeatable combination!
Over the next decade I devoted every spare minute I had to my dogs. I degreed 14 Schutzhund dogs for NASA, while still participating in as many show circuits as I could squeeze in!
(Link: http://www.shilohshepherd.com/kennelof.htm )
If Tina refuses to give you the details, that's her perogative. Given how rudely you've treated her and her dogs, I'm suprised she even bothers to answer you at all!
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by Mystere on 15 January 2009 - 00:01
I stand by my posts, too. This is simply a crock and Tina does not respond to the simple queries because she can't: some of the folks who were in NASA are still alive to dispute any specific lies!!
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Rather than continue to quote your "bible" at us, why not respond to the specific queries? Put up, or shut up. But, of course, you'll do neither.
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by Mystere on 15 January 2009 - 00:01
by Uglydog on 15 January 2009 - 01:01
Personal Protection Plus!!
And Schutzhund...Exhibit A
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by Mystere on 15 January 2009 - 01:01
They should seek AKC recognition---they could sell even more shilohs!!
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by Sunsilver on 15 January 2009 - 01:01
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by wuzzup on 15 January 2009 - 02:01
IM may be wrong but I do not believe the AKC recognized schz titles back in the sixties.So how would her pedigrees prove too any of you her dogs were schz titled back then ?
by Uglydog on 15 January 2009 - 02:01
When they were Registered has Nothing to do with it.
Tina marketed them for SchH. And Personal Protection.
Not 1 has been or Had Been SchH titled. Thats dishonest. And unethical in my book.
I havent seen many 134lb GSDs titling SchH. She knew well what she was doing.
Other Shiloh breeders & Owners are alot more honest in the Shilohs Working ability, or lack thereof.
Its all really quite sad to me.
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by wuzzup on 15 January 2009 - 03:01
Well I have a dog off AKC shiloh,Shilohs SMOKE-IN SZAR,CD one name in a long pedigree Yes she was mixed with ddr.She weighed over 100 pounds and she would go all day.I still have some off spring in my dogs and they would take a sch title.They may not score a 300 but they would be more then willing to do the work..They would give there all and then some.Oh and I have never had any hip problems with them.Would i buy a shiloh of today ?NO.I DO NOT LIKE THE MIX ,BUT IF SOMEONE GAVE ME ONE AND I HAD THE ROOM I WOULD TAKE IT.WOULD I BREED IT ?NO.LOVE IT?YES.
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