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4pack

by 4pack on 06 April 2010 - 05:04

Jim, please start a thread worth talking about, I'd be glad to move on.

by bazza on 06 April 2010 - 08:04

GSDtravels, Thank you for posting her reply to me as I was just about to point this out.
Sueincc, You are of course 100% correct, and good of you to put yourself on here when all Maggs ever does is verbally attack you for no reason.
Jim, Totally agree, but it will take a concerted effort from all and lots of willpower to ignore her verbal abuse of everyone.

by CORGILOVER on 06 April 2010 - 11:04

FIRST, CONGRATS ONE THOUSAND TIMES OVER.  I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN OUR SPORT, THAT ARE SO CRUEL AS TO PUT DOWN YOUR WONDERFUL WIN.  FOR MANY YEARS, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ALOT OF NEW-COMERS IN OBEDIENCE.  IT HAS BEEN GEARED TO THE PROFESSIONAL, OR WELL SEASONED TRAINER AND EXHIBITOR.  THE NEW PEOPLE WERE LEFT OUT IN THE WIND.  NOW, IT LOOKS LIKE AKC HAS FINALLY RECOGINIZED THE NEED TO REWARD THE EFFORTS OF SOMEONE WITH THEIR FIRST DOG, ALLOWING THEM A PRIZE CATIGORY (HIGH IN "A" CLASSES) THAT THEY COULD COMPETE AGAINST THEIR PEIRS;  I HAVE BEEN SHOWING IN OBEDIENCE SINCE 1962, AND HAVE DABBLED IN AGILITY.  I AM NOW GOING TO START IN RALLY-O AS A NEONATE.  I HAVE OFTEN FELT A LITTLE BAD WHEN I HAVE WON OVER SOMEONE THAT HAS GOTTEN THEIR FIRST LEG AND ARE ESTATIC.  I HOPED THAT THEIR NOT TAKING HOME A RIBBON WOULD NOT DEMINISH THEIR ENTHEUSIAM, AND THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO SHOW.  AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR WIN, AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

Mystere

by Mystere on 06 April 2010 - 12:04

Hey, YR, long time no see! :-)

wlpool

by wlpool on 06 April 2010 - 12:04

Ah, I was wondering when you would show up Nia Conttrell.  Oh FYI, read TOS

OMG, I JUST NOTICED THE COPY AND PAST FROM GSDTRAVELS!
I spoke with him A TON OF TIMES and told him that I MAY GIVE HIS NUMBER OUT AT LEAST 5 times before I ACTUALLY GAVE IT OUT!  BUT, IF YOU WOULD CHECK YOUR FACTS YOU WOULD KNOW THAT!
His number was THERE!  Why didn't you JUST CALL AND ASK WHEN I TOLD HIM????????

HIS NUMBER WAS THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST CALL HIM AND CHECK YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT FROM THE SOURCE????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

by Micky D on 06 April 2010 - 13:04

  "NOW, IT LOOKS LIKE AKC HAS FINALLY RECOGINIZED THE NEED TO REWARD THE EFFORTS OF SOMEONE WITH THEIR FIRST DOG, ALLOWING THEM A PRIZE CATIGORY (HIGH IN "A" CLASSES) THAT THEY COULD COMPETE AGAINST THEIR PEIRS;  I HAVE BEEN SHOWING IN OBEDIENCE SINCE 1962, AND HAVE DABBLED IN AGILITY.  I AM NOW GOING TO START IN RALLY-O AS A NEONATE.  I HAVE OFTEN FELT A LITTLE BAD WHEN I HAVE WON OVER SOMEONE THAT HAS GOTTEN THEIR FIRST LEG AND ARE ESTATIC.  I HOPED THAT THEIR NOT TAKING HOME A RIBBON WOULD NOT DEMINISH THEIR ENTHEUSIAM, AND THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO SHOW."

Since Novice A is for trainers who have never put even a CD title on a dog, but Open A and Utility A are for people who might have put a hundred CDX's and UD's on dogs, but just no OTCH's or they aren't a judge, you can hardly refer to the 3 groups of "A" exhibitors as "peers".  This is why the ribbon offered in the San Antonio trial was a special award, not an AKC sponsored/recorded one.

I'm newer to obedience than are you.  I only completed my first CD in 1970 but I know a Novice A handler and an Open A and especially a Utility A handler are light years apart as far as dog training experience goes.  I've also seen Novice A handlers beat the stuffings out of complacent, lazy trainers in Novice B.

I agree that encouraging new pet owners who begin obedience/rally and agility is something those of us in the sports need to do.  Breeders who exploit the sport need to be called out.  In this case, the individual has apologized, so I'm taking her at her word.

One last thing.  It's a person's responsibility to download a current copy of AKC's rules & regulations that apply to the sport in which that person plans to participate, especially since  AKC is changing obedience steadily and there are new, non-regular classes being added as well as opening non-conformation areas to mixed breeds.  This way, people will understand the activity better, and hopefully we won't see these kinds of threads.


by VomMarischal on 06 April 2010 - 14:04

My question is, can a dog that has a CD go into A novice classes?

SG 1 MY STUD

CD, RN, AD, BH, CGC

Sire Born :

SG 1 MY STUD 
SV/0000000
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
 

by TessJ10 on 06 April 2010 - 14:04

You can continue to show in Novice A up to 60 days after earning the CD title.  (Actually, any "A" class, not just Novice).

From the Rulebook: 

"After a dog earns a title from an “A” class, it may continue showing
in that “A” class for 60 days.
• After 60 days, it may continue to compete in that level “B” class."

The trial this thread is about is the trial where the dog earned the 3rd and final leg of his CD  title.  He was not a CD dog until he qualified at this trial.  Not sure if you were thinking he already was or not, I'm just clarifying. 

by VomMarischal on 06 April 2010 - 15:04

Excellent. One more question: typically, how many times do you have to show in an AKC trial to get your CD?

by Micky D on 06 April 2010 - 15:04

 My question is, can a dog that has a CD go into A novice classes?

Chapter 1, Section 16:

Section 16. When Titles Are Won.

 

• After a dog earns a title from an “A” class, it may continue show- ing in that “A” class for 60 days.

 

• After 60 days, it may continue to compete in that level “B” class. • A dog may continue to compete in Novice B until it receives either a qualifying score in the Open class or earns the Highest Scoring

 

Dog in the Regular Classes award. • An unlimited number of the Highest Scoring Dog in the Regular

 

Classes awards may be obtained from the Novice A class within the 60-day time period after earning the initial Companion Dog title.

 

• Once a Highest Scoring Dog in the Regular Classes award is received after the 60-day period, the dog may no longer be entered in Novice B at future trials for which entries have not closed.

 

• A dog may compete indefinitely in Open B and/or Utility B after the Open or Utility title is earned.

 

• A dog may compete in a more advanced class if it receives the pre- requisite title prior to the trial in which the advanced entry is to be made.

 

• Once a dog has competed in Open, it may not again be shown in Novice A.

• Once a dog has competed in Utility, it may not again be shown in Open A.






 


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