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by yoshy on 22 March 2010 - 13:03
I shouldnt have phrased things the way I had-
I should have asked if breeding back to the standard to bring that balance back.
Well I understand Carly's temperament has its place. That is why Im curious to what they are looking for from his progeny as well as how he has already reproduced himself.
Hans and Jiri are used to my 1million questions game by now. I tell you what The weekend I spent with them both was extremely informative one.If you ever get the chance do it.

by darylehret on 22 March 2010 - 14:03
by Ibrahim on 22 March 2010 - 17:03
Ibrahim

by darylehret on 22 March 2010 - 19:03
by Ibrahim on 22 March 2010 - 19:03
I have these three puppies (me and my sisters)
One 4 months female from Zen
One 4 months male from Ox
One 6.5 months female from Carly
Here is a comparison on them:
Zen puppy:
1. Ordinary pigment,
2. Projects to be medium size with good bones,
3 .Head on the smaller edge,
4. Ears not fully erect yet,
5. Conformation very good,
6. No seen faults in structure so far,
7. Extremely stubborn,
8. The best in playing tough with other puppies,
9. Eats well but normal intake.
10. Back not strong yet.
11. No fear,
12. Prey is very good.
13. Growing rather slowly.
14. Very jealous from other puppies over us. Very well attached to us.
15 .Looks happy all the time.
Added: She always mounts the other female and jerks on her as if she is a male and mating her.
Ox puppy:
1.Best in pigment,
2. Projects to be big size and huge bones
3. Head on the bigger edge,
4. Best ear erectness
5. Conformation is best,
6. No seen faults in structure so far,
7. Extremely stubborn and independent,
8. The least in playing with other puppies and likes to sit by himself with excellent alertness all the time,
9. Huge eater and most dominant in regards to food, if he has any object he guards it and fights over it. Very selfish
10. Strongest back (topline)
11. No fear at all, even sometimes in a stupid way.
12. Excellent prey drive, I need to say no loudely several times so he does not bite a chicken.
13. Growing up very fast,
14. Not jealous from other puppies over us.Not very well attached to us so far
15. Looks cheerful all the time.
Added: Has piercing eyes.
Carly daughter:
1.Very good pigment
2. Projects to be big size with big bones
3. Head on the bigger edge
4. Very good ear rection
5. Conformation very good, needs more croup angel.
6. No seen faults in structure so far.
7. Not stubborn
8. Plays well with other puppies
9. Good eater, but ordinary intake
10. Back not very strong yet, little stretched.
11. No fear.
12. Good prey drive, but stopped chasing the chicken from first time I shouted at her.
13. Growing up very fast (having her period at this time)
14. Not very jealous from other puppies over us, well attached to us.
15. Sometimes looks sad.
Added: The most classy among them
Added: the best runner with very light stride full of elegance, she has a beautiful gait too.
Regards
Ibrahim
by freemont on 22 March 2010 - 19:03
That Chetra of yours looks very, very nice. And you can see the DDR lines throughout her lineage. Is it just me, or is Rolandsteich everywhere?
Nanu,
You said earlier that some of the Czech lines in your opinion were diminished with the introduction of certain DDR lines because of sharpness. Now, was the emphasis on the DDR or the word, "certain" in that statement? There is no "Czech Shepherd". It is widely understood that in fact the foundation for the gsds from this land originated from the DDR lines in the first place! If you are making a statement on the "DDR" dogs from when after the wall came down, well, I suppose that is similar to your lament of the change in the "Czech" dogs around the same time.
Cheers!

by yoshy on 22 March 2010 - 21:03
Ibrahim,
We chatted about your pups a couple months ago. nice breakdown, but who were the other half of the equation? It takes two haha.
by Ibrahim on 22 March 2010 - 21:03
Inkka z Jirkova Dvora (Zen z Jirkova Dvora X Kelly z Jirkova Dvora)
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/637851.html
Erri od Roubenky (Ox z Jirkova Dvora X Paloma od Roubenky)
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/637853.html
Chetra z Jirkova Dvora (Carly Policia-Slovakia X Galina z Jirkova Dvora)
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/631648.html

by yoshy on 23 March 2010 - 01:03

by Border11 on 23 March 2010 - 02:03
Thanks so much for sharing.... can you possibly post some photo's of these Pup's?
what are you using the dogs for Breeding? working ? etc.... Thank you again
for sharing this info. on your Pups. I happen to think That Ox is Awesome.
I to had the privilege to speak with Hans and Jiri along with Voshy. I rarely
post anything but I do read occasional threads that are interesting like this one.
Its rare to see someone whom has three pups that they can compare
like this I think it a Huge advantage to all of us.
Good luck with them and I'm sure they will grow into great dogs as they were
Bred to be. Keep us updated
Border11
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