Keeping Your Dog Safe from Law Enforcement - Page 15

I just skimmed over your posts to this thread, Darly, and I stand corrected. You were not critisizing LEOs in general, just your usual needling of Slamdunc. As far as you and shooting dogs ,well........you can tell that one if you want.

Alboe, I figured you were involved in law enforcement. I think your posts were intended to help everyone understand the challenges faced by LEO's every day.

As for the rest of you who can't say enough negative things about those who risk their lives every day to protect yours, I am curious as to how you earn a living that you feel you are qualified to be so relentlessly judgemental. Is there an occupation in the US that doesn't have a few bad actors?



 

MY usual needling of Slamdunc?!  You have to be kidding, as much crap as I put up from him, he just crossed the line of no return, as far as receiving my respect goes.  Maybe you should carefully read ALL of the exchanges we've had over the years, if you want to get your nose into it that badly.  And my shooting of a particular dog has absolutely positively NOTHING to do with this thread, and is simply his needling of me, which is why he was ignored.

If you want to have the same kind of relationship with me as he does, you're off to a good start.

If someone shoots a child for screaming at them and moving towards them fast. Is it your opinion that we would need to seek out a parent to see if that is proper behavior. Thats seems like a silly position to me. I can absolutely tell you that using a shovel to reprimand your child is wrong. 

Really??  You must be very literal.  


Do all DA's, Lawyers and Judges have "boots on the ground" LEO experience?  Yes some do, but at the end of the day most don't and these are the people that decide whether the action of an LEO is legal or not.  Sorry but in court, civilians who may or may not be former LEO's, DO decide which action, critique or opinion is LEGAL.  Also, as far as I know no one has spent the capital needed in civil court to make high penalties a true deterence for LEO departments across the nation.  Second it would take a very gutsy DA to try and prosecute an LEO for something like animal cruelty, unlawful discharge of a weapon or similar.  

Again, really??  


For the sake of education (since I'm an educator).  I was using an analogy.  Unless you walk in someone else's shoes, you have no idea what it is like.  This analogy did not pertain to shooting a dog, but to the whole entire experience of being an LEO.   You know, the daily grind so to speak.  The day after day, year after year, experiences of that career.  Stress does take a toll.  Experiences over time can affect how someone responds.  

Not condoning shooting dogs by LEO by any means just stating that is it easy to criticize when you have not had those experiences.   You need to know the "whole picture" like in the video GSDadmin posted.  What is the whole story?   

"For the sake of education (since I'm an educator). I was using an analogy. Unless you walk in someone else's shoes, you have no idea what it is like. This analogy did not pertain to shooting a dog, but to the whole entire experience of being an LEO. You know, the daily grind so to speak. The day after day, year after year, experiences of that career. Stress does take a toll. Experiences over time can affect how someone responds.

"Not condoning shooting dogs by LEO by any means just stating that is it easy to criticize when you have not had those experiences. You need to know the "whole picture" like in the video GSDadmin posted. What is the whole story?"

Exactly, ggturner



    

The story is posted here. The dog did not bite anyone the person who reported it as menacing was the person who caught it and chained it to the front of the trailer. These were LEOs and not animal control.  They had the dog under control, they are not judge and jury to decide if a dog under control should be shot in front of it's owners. The dog was wagging it's tail after the first shot and the officer pulls his gun and shoots him again. Sickening.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/06/19/video-shows-missouri-cop-shooting-restrained-bulldog/


And what about this story? I suppose this elderly cat was a problem.

http://www.change.org/petitions/raymore-mo-officer-shoots-helpless-deaf-19-year-old-cat-stuffs-in-trash-bag


"You know, the daily grind so to speak. The day after day, year after year, experiences of that career. Stress does take a toll. Experiences over time can affect how someone responds."

If it becomes such a hassle and grind--then please find a different career, no one ever said it was easy, what is being said is if you have this daily grind issue find a different job because you don't have what it takes to be an officer. They carry guns and have almost absolute authority and if they are bothered by the daily duties and stress of their jobs then they don't need to be police officers. You have made my point. So, it is about the daily stress and grind which is why their guns and badges should be taken away.

True, it is so easy to criticize, especially when the critics have no experience in the field they are critiquing.  Makes me think of people who never had any children who tell parents how to raise kids.

Really??  You must be very literal.

Really....., we are talking about the abuse of animals and the automatic use of lethal force by many on pets. Any person who does not automatically shoot an animal is qualified to discuss, seems to me.  For the most part the thread has been very clear.
 

For the sake of education (since I'm an educator).  I was using an analogy.  Unless you walk in someone else's shoes, you have no idea what it is like.

"You know, the daily grind so to speak. The day after day, year after year, experiences of that career. Stress does take a toll. Experiences over time can affect how someone responds."

Perhaps start a thread for people who don't know LEO or have them in the family. What its like or how hard it is or how many times its done right on different topics is quite irrelevant to this topic. 

 

This one has been pretty specific. Problem identified, problem being discussed.  I don't know if your thought on that post was an attempt to derail or side track anyone from talking about the abuse of animals by some police officers.  But comments like that are often used for the how dare you argument. Many people including LEO are taking the "general bashing argument"  when for the most part whats being presented is a single argument. 

 

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Often used when you are unable to debate the actual argument, sidetrack.. throw rocks, throw insults ask irrelevant questions.. Just sayin...

Monsieur Gigante,

You got an agenda, it is clear. Trash all cops because they will all shoot your pets. I get it. They have big guns and just want to use your dog as target practice. It's not everyday one gets to actually watch the rendering of blood and guts and get away with it. It makes their day. Therefore we should not have any cops. Everybody should get a gun and learn how to use it. If you don't do that, then it is going to be your own damn fault if something bad happens to you. And don't call you for help, because that's not how it works. You watch your yard, and I'll watch mine. That mean's I'll shoot the bad guy in my yard and you shoot the bad guy in your yard and that way no one will shoot our pets.

I have been followig this topic so here I go ,beetree your right the last people I will call will be the police.  I live in the backwoods of Michigan local sherf. dept. has cost our county triple in insurance because of law suits, 18 miles to east another dept officer at local hotdog place causes a scene drunk and disorderly fellow officers let him go later that evening he goes in a ditch,car catches on fire lots of witnesses again let off...move to east 25 more miles 3 officer's suspended for coverup, teenager with knife at school happens to be undersherriffis step son, lets move to the northwest officers enter home without a warrant harrassing a highschooler big mistake this time parents were there. So who would you call? Me I'll take care of it my self... one foot in door way, one foot out is the saying here . And my dogs will be safe...( oh growing up my neighbor was a officer very nice ,stand up guy and not a bully retired a sergent don't make them like that anymore)

Pretty much. That's what civilization is all about. The station isn't too far, but the cops love my road for a speed trap. I feel like I know them, LOL My neighbor across the street is a cop. He works at night. I do have a GSD, and a husband who lifts weights. I'm short the gun.