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Pirates Lair

by Pirates Lair on 09 January 2011 - 19:01

Good luck with that Jen

by desert dog on 09 January 2011 - 19:01

Man , this stuff isn't rocket science. Eap44 ,you don't owe a explanation to anyone. The first protection dog I ever saw was in 1957. I owned him, I trained him, And HE DIED PROTECTING ME. I was a 10 year old kid. The only heel I knew anything  about was the one I wore out in my sock. This GSD pup was given to me by a shoe shine man at the entrance of a Newburys dime store in Visalia,ca. He never ate anything but left overs after our meals, or might have shared a candy bar if I could round up a nickel. His training was taught by living. We played cowboys and indians, war, and king of the mountain. If a intruder came around he would always walk right in front of me seperating me from the person. He would be very calm and just have a low growl. When dad was going to give me a whipping he took him down and had his arm buried in his mouth. When I hollerd at him he let him go. On my birthday my grandad was going to give me a birthday spanking and I made a mistake I ran and jumped on top of his pen and my grandad was chasing me and Garr exploded on him. When I got home from school the next day they had shot him. Look I'm all for training, I'm all for obedience. But it is all worthless without the dog. EAP44 sounds to me you are very responsible. Keep training, bonding with your dog, and the best to you.
Hank


by EAP44 on 09 January 2011 - 20:01

Hey Thanks desert dog, I appreciate it. I very responsible with my dogs and would like to know why he singled me out to ask about my training? Did I come across as not responsible?

GSDNewbie

by GSDNewbie on 09 January 2011 - 20:01

I was not attacking. I was asking the poster because they said they trained three times a week but did not say what kind of training. Other people started listing their training but I had asked one person the question in the thread for them to answer because we had been posting same time on this topic. no biggy I wanted to know why they train hard but could consider their dogs other than PPD dogs.


 I am not a he either :)


by desert dog on 09 January 2011 - 20:01

I don't think any disrespect had anything to do with it. I think his intentions were good. Alot of people ,me included would hate to see some one have a false expectation of what we are putting our security in. And  everyone has things that they feel are important to evaluate a dogs value in any task. Some people think you can take any dog as long as it is trained by a Professional and have a more reliable dog. some  like me put more infuses on the dogs character, than the training. But it takes both. Most any dog can be of help in a bad situation, But not all dogs want to when they are pressured. I'll always take the latter. obediece being the most important thing you can teach a dog especially a security or protection dog. you will be ok just continue what you are doing. you have a goal and by training for it and especially enjoying it you will do fine.
hank

Red Sable

by Red Sable on 09 January 2011 - 20:01

Interesting about one's own dog joining in on the frey and attacking the owner.  Hard for me to believe. 

My dogs are very distrusting of strangers, so I can't imagine it.  I guess I will never know until I stage something.  I will have to do that.

If you see this in training, do you suppose it may be caused by training these dogs in prey? 
Or, what I should of said is breeding these very high prey dogs? Or both. Or neither.


by EAP44 on 09 January 2011 - 20:01

Thanks, Sorry newbie didnt realize you were a she.

rush

by rush on 09 January 2011 - 21:01

Red Sable, it happens more than you know to Police K9 Handlers, do some research.

Unless you have tested your dog on it, you will never know. I am speaking of a situation where an assailant is on top of the handler.

I have no problem being proved wrong


4pack

by 4pack on 09 January 2011 - 21:01

I agree with Rush. Anyone who assumes different in their own instance, needs to test it. 

buckeyefan gsd

by buckeyefan gsd on 09 January 2011 - 22:01

i think i remember gard and slamdunc discussing proofing
their dogs for this.
i think they even showed videos
if you havent trained it you better not deny it





 


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